>>> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
WELCOME TO THE SELECTED BUDGET
COMMITTEE MEETING.
TODAY IS OCTOBER 15, 2021.
THIS IS FRIDAY AND THE FINAL
DAY THREE OF THREE OF OUR
CENTRAL STAFF ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION.
I AM TERESA MOSQUEDA, CHAIR OF
THE COMMITTEE.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL.
>> LEWIS.
>> PRESENT.
>> MORALES.
>> HERE.
>> PEDERSEN.
HERE.
>> 1032.
>> PRESENT.
>> HERBOLD.
AND CHAIR MOSQUEDA?
>> PRESENT.
>> EIGHT PRESENT.
>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR
DAY THREE OF THE CENTRAL STAFF
ISSUE IDENTIFICATION,
IDENTIFYING ISSUES FOR
DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE AMENDMENT
IDEAS FOR LATER THAT CENTRAL
STAFF HAS FLAGGED FOR US FROM
THE BUDGET WE RECEIVED FROM THE
MAYORS OFFICE TWO WEEKS AGO.
I WANT TO THANK CENTRAL STAFF
FOR ALL OF THE WORK THEY HAVE
DONE AND THANK ALL OF YOU FOR
YOUR PARTICIPATION OVER THE
LAST TWO DAYS AND WE WILL GET
THROUGH TODAY AND MAKE SURE TO
ADJOURN BEFORE 5:00 P.M.
TODAY WITH THE INTENT TO TAKE A
FULL RECESS BETWEEN 1:00 P.M.
AND 2:00 P.M.
THE MORNING SESSION WILL
INCLUDE THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION OVERVIEW, THE
ALTERNATIVE POLICE RESPONSE AND
THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM IS A
TOPIC AS WELL THIS MORNING.
WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AT 1:00
P.M.
AND COME BACK AT 2:00 P.M.
TO CONCLUDE OUR ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION, LOOKING AT THE
SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION,
TODAY'S AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED.
HEARING NO OBJECTION, TODAY'S
AGENDA IS ADOPTED.
I WANT TO JUST ASK THAT -- I AM
GOING TO TRY TO MAKE SURE I
HAVE THE RIGHT LINK HERE FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT WE
DO HAVE THE INTENT TO HEAR FROM
EVERYBODY ON MY LIST.
AS I CHECK IN WITH THE CLERK TO
MAKE SURE I AM LOOKING AT THE
RIGHT SHEET, I SEE 28 PEOPLE
SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>> AFFIRMATIVE.
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET A
CHANCE TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY
THIS MORNING.
I WILL GIVE YOU ONE MINUTE TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
PLEASE REMEMBER THERE IS A 10
SECOND TIME THAT WILL AIR WHEN
YOUR TIME IS ABOUT TO CONCLUDE,
SO PLEASE CONCLUDE REMARKS AND
SEND ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO US
AT COUNCIL@SEATTLE.GOV.
I WILL CALL TO NINES NAMES AT
A TIME.
DOUBLE CHECK THAT YOUR PHONE IS
NOT ON MUTE.
THANKS AGAIN FOR DIALING IN.
ONCE YOU HAVE CONCLUDED
COMMENTS, PLEASE HANG UP,
DISCONNECT, AND LISTEN BACK IN
AT THE SEATTLE CHANNEL LIVE-
STREAM OR ANY OF THE LISTEN IN
OPTIONS PROVIDED ON TODAY'S
AGENDA.
THANK YOU FOR DIALING AND TO
PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE 2022
PROPOSED BUDGET AND OUR
DELIBERATIONS.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW OPEN.
THE FIRST TWO SPEAKERS ARE
HOWARD GAIL AND NATION BURNS.
GOOD MORNING, HOWARD.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
RECENTLY SETTLED A LAWSUIT FOR
THE SPD ABUSE OF AN ELDERLY
WHITE MAN FOR 20 $50,000 AND A
MEETING WITH THE CHIEF.
HOWEVER, FOR THE EXECUTION
STYLE MURDER OF A PACIFIC
ISLANDER, LEAVING TWO CHILDREN
FATHERLESS, THE CITY SETTLED
FOR $515,000 AND NO MEETING.
IN BOTH CASES THE POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM DEEMED
THE ACTIONS, QUOTE, LAWFUL AND
PROPER, UNQUOTE.
CLEARLY THIS COUNCIL CARES
LITTLE ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND
JUSTICE POST GEORGE FLOYD.
$10.8 MILLION FOR 2022 MEANS
TAXPAYERS PAY TWICE FOR POLICE
ABUSE, ONCE TO COVER IT UP AND
THE SECOND TIME TO COMPENSATE
THE VICTIMS.
THE SOLIDARITY BUDGET DEMANDS
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY BE
REMOVED.
WE MUST GO BEYOND THAT AND
ADDRESS A FAILED SYSTEM THAT
BILLS TAXPAYERS TWICE FOR ABUSE.
GO TO SEATTLE STOP TO FIND OUT
HOW WE CAN DO THIS.
>> THANKS, HOWARD.
AND GOOD MORNING.
I AM NOT SEEING THEM ON THE
SCREEN.
>> WE HAVE LOST A COLLAR.
>> OKAY, WE WILL COME BACK TO
YOU IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DIAL IN.
GOOD MORNING.
AND NEXT WILL BE SCOTT.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING, HI.
I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 2.
I CALLED IN AND MOST
COUNCILMEMBERS PROBABLY KNOW MY
FIRST AND LAST NAME BY NOW.
I CALLED AND MOSTLY TALKING
ABOUT INVESTING IN COMMUNITY
BASED HOLISTIC APPROACHES TO
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.
I WANT TO TRY SOMETHING
DIFFERENT TODAY.
I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU AREAS
OF THE BUDGET THAT COULD BE
FUNDED -- FOR INSTANCE, THE
BUDGET IS LOOKING LIKE IT IS
GOING TO BE $47.8 MILLION MORE,
BECAUSE THERE IS A BUNCH THAT
WAS NOT TAKEN OUT FROM THE
PREVIOUS BUDGET.
SO HERE IS WHAT WE CAN DO.
WE CAN CREATE NEARLY 2000 UNITS
OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE
HOUSING.
WE COULD ACTUALLY -- IT COSTS
ABOUT $120,000 TO TRAIN A COP
AND PAY FOR NEW COPS EVERY
SINGLE YEAR, BUT WE ACTUALLY
PUT TOGETHER PROGRAMS THAT HELP
FAMILIES.
WE CAN ALSO SHOW THAT
INDIGENOUS LIVES MATTER.
>> THANK YOU AGAIN.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE THEM BACK
ON THE LINE, SO I WILL GO TO
THEM AND THEN SCOTT.
SCOTT, I SEE YOU UNMUTED.
SORRY TO SKIP OVER YOU.
>> I AM A RENTER IN DISTRICT 2.
I WANT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
THE BUDGET.
FIRST, THE COUNCIL SHOULD REJECT
MAYOR DURKAN'S PROPOSED
INCREASE.
THIS MONEY IS TOTALLY
UNNECESSARY AND COPS ARE SOME
OF THE MOST HIGHLY PAID PUBLIC
EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY.
THEY DON'T NEED MORE.
LOCAL RIGHT-WING MEDIA HAVE
WHIPPED PEOPLE INTO A FRENZY
ABOUT AN IMAGINARY SKYROCKETING
CRIME WAVE.
THE FUNDING POLICE, WHICH DID
NOT HAPPEN IN ANY MEANINGFUL
WAY.
YOU DO NOT WANT TO BEND TO
CONSERVATIVE MEDIA.
COMING OUT OF THE PROTESTS LAST
SUMMER, PEOPLE WILL NOTICE IF
YOU JUST WALK BACK THE
CONCESSIONS YOU DID MAKE.
I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE
IMPORTANCE OF WHAT WILL
ALLEVIATE CRIME, WHICH IS
FUNDING FOR SOCIAL SERVICES.
OF COURSE IT IS NOT GOING TO BE
ENOUGH AND WE NEED A MASSIVE
EXPANSION.
$120 MILLION, MOST OF IT SHOULD
GO TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING, SCOTT.
THANKS FOR WAITING.
>> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, I AM COMMENTING
ON BEHALF OF THE STEERING
COMMITTEE AND OUR COMMUNITY
PARTNERS.
I AM COMMENTING ON THE SDOT
BUDGET.
WE CONTINUE TO REQUEST THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL FUND THE STUDY
RECOMMENDED SEVERAL YEARS AGO
BY THE IMAGINE GREATER DOWNTOWN
PROGRAM.
THE STREET NETWORK STUDY IS
NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF
OUR OPTIONS AS WE RECOVER FROM
THE PANDEMIC.
I AM ALSO ASKING THAT THIS
DOWNTOWN STUDY BE DONE
COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE STATE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO
LOOK AT THE RELATION BETWEEN
THE STREETS AND RAMPS.
MANY OF THESE ARE CAUSES OF
TRAFFIC DELAYS AND PEDESTRIAN
HAZARDS.
THEY ALSO HAMPER OPPORTUNITIES
LONG TERM.
THIS YEAR A SCIENTIFIC POLL OF
VOTERS FOUND 77% OF VOTERS
FAVOR RELOCATING RAMPS IF I CAN
HELP ADDRESS CONGESTION AND
SAFETY.
OUR TEAM IS AVAILABLE SHOULD
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, PERFECT TIMING.
BJ, YOU ARE FOLLOWED BY GORDON.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE
SOLIDARITY BUDGET AND DE-FUNDING
SPD AND THE COURTS BY 50%.
STARTING WITH THE PREVENTATIVE
CRIME PATROL EXPERIMENT, STUDY
AFTER STUDY HAS SHOWN THAT
PATROL AND POLICE PRESENCE DOES
NOT MAKE COMMUNITIES SAFER.
MEETING PEOPLE'S BASIC NEEDS
MAKES COMMUNITIES SAFER.
POLICE PRESENCE HAS NO IMPACT
ON CRIME RATES.
POLICE PRESENCE DOES HURT THE
COMMUNITY.
A RECENT STUDY PUBLISHED IN
LANCET FOUND FOUR EFFORTS,
INCLUDING DE-ESCALATION
TRAINING, IMPLICIT BIAS
TRAINING, BODY CAMERAS, HAVE
FAILED TO REDUCE POLICE
VIOLENCE RATES OR RACIAL
DISPARITIES.
THIS FAILURE TO REFORM IS WHY
THE CENTER FOR POLICE AND
EQUITY FOUND SPD STILL USES
FORCE AGAINST BLACK AND
INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AT
DISPROPORTIONATE RATES.
THIS IS ABOUT REIMAGINING
PUBLIC SAFETY.
SPD DOES NOT MAKE THE COMMUNITY
SAFE.
MEETING PEOPLE'S BASIC NEEDS
MAKES THE COMMUNITY SAFE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT IS GORDON, FOLLOWED BY
PENNY.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING,
COUNCILMEMBERS.
MY NAME IS GORDON WITH SEATTLE
NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAY, HERE TO
TALK ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION
BUDGET.
AS YOU KNOW, SAFETY FOR PEOPLE
WALKING AND ROLLING IS MORE
URGENT THAN EVER GIVEN THE
SHARP UPTICK IN TRAFFIC DEATHS
THIS YEAR.
IT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS
PEOPLE OF COLOR, PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES, ELDERS, AND ALL
COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
IT WAS THE WORST YEAR OF
TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND INJURIES
IN OVER A DECADE, SO WE NEED TO
DO MORE TO REACH VISION ZERO.
LUCKILY THE PROGRAM IS FOCUSED
ON PROVEN METHODS TO INCREASE
SAFETY AND A STRONG EQUITY
FRAMEWORK, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE
PROPOSING INCREASING THE VISION
ZERO BUDGET.
PLEASE MAINTAIN THE MAYOR'S
PROPOSED SPEND PLAN FOR THE
VEHICLE LICENSING FEE AND
ICREASE THE COMMERCIAL PARKING
TAGS.
BOTH EFFORTS WOULD GO TO
INCREASE THE VISION ZERO BUDGET
AND HELP KEEP EVERYONE SAFE ON
OUR STREETS.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, GORDON.
PENNY, YOU ARE NEXT.
>> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING.
I AM PENNY AND I LIVE IN
DISTRICT 6. I AM CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF THE SOLIDARITY
BUDGET.
I'VE LIVED IN A VIBRANT
NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 25 YEARS,
WHERE NEIGHBORS KNOW AND CARE
FOR EACH OTHER.
THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET
MOVED IN AND SOLD THEIR HOME TO
A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER IN
ARIZONA.
THE HOUSE HAS BEEN EMPTY SINCE
JUNE.
LAST NIGHT THE OWNER ARRIVED TO
FIND ALL THE ELECTRICAL WIRING
HAD BEEN STRIPPED IN THE HOUSE
OBVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY SEVERAL
PEOPLE.
NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WERE
AWARE OF THIS.
NOW THE HOUSE IS BOARDED UP FOR
AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME.
THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR HAS BEEN
VACANT FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS.
ALL THE POLICING IN THE WORLD
WON'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT MANY
PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY NEED
HELP, INCLUDING PERMANENT
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AND WILL DO
WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO FIND
SHELTER AND CASH.
POLICE DON'T KEEP US SAFE,
MEETING BASIC NEEDS KEEPS US
SAFE.
POLICING IS LIKE A DIRTY
BANDAGE COVERING A FESTERING
WOUND.
NOT ONLY DO POLICE NOT HEAL THE
WOUND, THEY CAUSE FURTHER
INFECTION.
INCREASING COMMUNITY SERVICE --
>> THANK YOU, PENNY AND PLEASE
SEND IN THE REST OF THOSE
COMMENTS TO
COUNCIL@SEATTLE.GOV.
I APPRECIATE YOU DIALING IN
THIS MORNING.
TERRY, FOLLOWED BY BLAIR.
GOOD MORNING.
JUST HIT á6 ONE MORE TIME.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE STILL
MUTED AND I WILL ALSO NOTE,
BLAIR, YOU ARE NEXT AFTER TERRY.
BUT IT HAS YOU LISTED AS NOT
PRESENT, SO IF YOU DIAL IN WE
WILL COME BACK TO YOU.
TERRY, JUST HIT á6 ONE MORE
TIME.
MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT HITTING
POUND.
WE HAD THAT HAPPEN A COUPLE OF
DAYS AGO.
SO á6 AND I WILL LOOK FOR YOU
TO COME OFF MUTE.
AS TERRY IS DOING THAT, CAN WE
TEE UP SAM, PLEASE?
TERRY, I WILL KEEP YOU ON THE
SCREEN, TO LOOK FOR YOU TO COME
OFF MUTE.
TERRY, I THOUGHT I SAW YOU COME
OFF MUTE AND GO BACK ON.
ONE MORE TIME IF YOU CAN HIT
á6.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
THERE WE GO.
>> I LIVE IN DISTRICT 3. I WAS
CALLING ABOUT THE STREET
PROGRAM.
I AM ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT
FOR COUNCILMEMBER MORALES'S
CURRENT INITIATIVE TO ADD AND
PROVIDE $200,000 FOR THE 2022
PROPOSED BUDGET, ENABLING SDOT
TO PROCEED WITH EQUITABLE
ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH WITH
THE OBJECTIVE OF FINALIZING A
PLAN FOR PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT
FOR THE PARK.
ADOPTING FUNDING AT THIS TIME
WILL BE IN KEEPING WITH YOUR
UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED JUNE,
2021 AMENDMENT.
CB 12 0093 VERSION 2, WHEREIN
THE COUNCIL COMMITTED TO FUTURE
FUNDING OF THIS WORK.
THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN AN
ENORMOUS SUCCESS OVER THE LAST
YEAR AND A HALF.
IT HAS DEMONSTRATED THE
IMPORTANCE OF REEVALUATING --
TO BE USED TO ITS GREATEST
POTENTIAL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, TERRY.
AND NEXT, SAM.
GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING, SAM.
SAM WILL BE FOLLOWED BY SYLVIA
REYNOLDS.
HI, SAM.
JUST á6 ONE M█ORE TIME.
>> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> NOW I CAN, THANKS.
>> OKAY.
I WILL BE SPEAKING ON THE 2021-
2022 BUDGET.
I AM A SAFETY SUPERVISOR FOR
THE METROPOLITAN IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICT.
IT IS PART OF THE DOWNTOWN
ASSOCIATION AND CONSISTS OF A
SAFETY AND OUTREACH TEAM AND
PARKS.
OVER THE PAST YEAR THERE HAS
BEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN
CRIME, AND HOMELESSNESS IN
DOWNTOWN SEATTLE.
THIS HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON OUR
PARKS AND OPERATIONS.
MANY HAVE BEEN THREATENED AND
ASSAULTED.
THE GOAL IN THIS IS TO PRODUCE
A HEALTHY, VIBRANT, URBAN CORE.
THIS IS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT.
WE NEED MORE POLICE, HOUSING,
TREATMENT AND SERVICES TO MEET
OUR GOAL.
I DEEPLY URGE YOU TO APPROVE A
BUDGET THAT PRIORITIZES SAFETY
AND COMPASSION FOR ALL.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SAM.
GOOD MORNING, YOU WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY VALERIE --
>> HI, I LIVE IN DISTRICT 6. I
AM CALLING IN SUPPORT OF
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES'S
PROPOSAL FOR PROJECTS IN
DISTRICT 2, INCLUDING LAKE
WASHINGTON BOULEVARD AND MLK
JUNIOR BOULEVARD.
THREE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE
BEEN TRAGICALLY KILLED THIS
SUMMER ON THE STREET AND I
THINK THAT SDOT SHOULD INCREASE
ITS VISION ZERO FUNDING,
INCLUDING SIDEWALKS.
I ALSO URGE YOU TO PLEASE
RESTART THE PROJECTS ON PAGE 37
OF THE COVID IMPACT ASSESSMENT
THAT STILL HAVE NOT BEEN
RESTARTED YET AND TO FOLLOW
THROUGH ON THEIR PRINCIPLES OF
SUCCESS.
INCLUDING ITS STRONG FOUNDATION
ON EQUITY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.
VALERIE, FOLLOWED BY WILSON.
á6 TO UNMUTE.
>> GOOD MORNING, VALERIE FROM
DISTRICT 2. THE POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY BUDGET IS $10.8
MILLION, JUST FOR THE CORE
PARTNERS, RECENT EVENTS SHOW
HOW URGENTLY WE NEED TO
REALLOCATE THESE FUNDS.
THE OIG INVESTIGATOR OF THE
WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT AND THE
FAILURE TO FAIRLY INVESTIGATE
OR CENSURE SPD FOR VIOLENCE IN
THE 2020 PROTESTS WERE REPORTED
IN THE SOUTH SEATTLE EMERALD,
AS WAS A DISMAL COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT THIS WEEK WITH THE
FEDERAL MONITORS.
THE INVESTIGATION UNDER OIG'S
OVERSIGHT ARE NOW ALL UNDER
QUESTION, INCLUDING
INVESTIGATIONS INTO FATAL
SHOOTINGS BY SPD.
WHY SHOULD WE FUND A SYSTEM
THAT RUBBERSTAMPS BIASED
INVESTIGATIONS TO PROTECT
POLICE MISCONDUCT?
THE CITY SHOULD DE-FUND THIS
SYSTEM BY AT LEAST 50%.
FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT A
PROPOSED LEGISLATION FOR A
CIVILIAN ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM
BASED ON BEST PRACTICE --
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PLEASE SEND THE REST OF YOUR
COMMENTS TO
COUNCIL@SEATTLE.GOV.
PETER, WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
CLARA.
>> HELLO.
>> HI, IS THIS -- GO AHEAD.
>> I AM A DISTRICT TO RESIDENT
AND I AM SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY
IN SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE'S
BUDGET WITH THE SOLIDARITY
BUDGET.
THE PEOPLE'S BUDGET HAS FOUGHT
TO ENSURE WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE
AND ORGANIZATIONS IN SEATTLE
HAVE NEEDS AND CONCERNS BROUGHT
FORWARD AND PROVIDED FOR.
NOT JUST BIG BUSINESS AND
CORPORATE INTERESTS.
LAST YEAR WITH THANKS TO THE
LEADERSHIP OF COUNCILMEMBER
SAWANT AND OTHERS, THE
MOVEMENT IN THE CITY WAS ABLE TO
WIN A HISTORIC TAX ON AMAZON
FOR INITIATIVES LIKE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND THE LOCAL GREEN NEW
DEAL.
THESE WEREN'T ONLY CONCRETE
WINDS, BUT INDEED MAJOR WINS FOR
SEATTLE, GIVEN THAT THE
MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION ARE
RENTERS.
OVER 60,000 RENTERS OWE RENTAL
DEBT TO THE LANDLORD AND WE ARE
SEEING THE EFFECTS OF THE
CLIMATE CRISIS INTENSIFY IN THE
LAST YEAR ALONE.
IT IS UNTENABLE THAT RENT
PRICES SKYROCKET.
AS HEAT WAVES CAUSE THE CLIMATE
CRISIS DAY
>> IF YOU COULD SEND IN THE
REST OF YOUR COMMENTS, AS WELL.
WE APPRECIATE YOU DIALING IN
TODAY AND IT IS
COUNCIL@SEATTLE.GOV.
PETER, GOOD MORNING.
YOU WILL BE FOLLOWED BY CLARA.
>> GOOD MORNING, THIS IS PETER
IN DISTRICT 6. I AM CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF DE-FUNDING SEATTLE
POLICE BY AT LEAST 50%.
THIS CAN BE DONE BY FOLLOWING
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE
SOLIDARITY BUDGET.
LAST MONTH I WAS APPROACHED BY
SPD SERGEANT HILL WHO DECIDED
HE WANTED TO SPEAK WITH ME
WITHOUT A MASK ON, INDOORS,
WITHIN THREE FEET.
I HAD TO PUT MYSELF AT RISK BY
TELLING A MAN WITH A GUN TO
FOLLOW COVID PRECAUTIONS.
HE DID NOT EVEN HAVE A MASK
WITH HIM.
WHY ARE MASKS NOT STANDARD
EQUIPMENT FOR SPD AT THIS
POINT?
STRUCTURE VALUES OFFICER
COMFORT AND PAY OVER PUBLIC
SAFETY.
SERGEANT HILL WAS ON THE JOB,
ENGAGING IN AN ACTIVITY KNOWN
TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SPREAD OF
COVID.
COUNCIL NEEDS TO TAKE POWER,
FUNDING, AND AUTHORITY AWAY
FROM SPD TO KEEP US SAFE.
COUNCIL CAN INCREASE FUNDING
FOR OTHER THINGS, INCLUDING
VISION ZERO AND SIDEWALKS.
ALSO, COUNCIL SHOULD ASK SDOT
TO COLLECT SAFETY DATA AND
TRASH DATA, INSTEAD OF LEAVING
THAT JOB TO SPD.
DE-FUNDING SPD IS A COMMITMENT
--
>> THANK YOU, PETER.
PLEASE SEND IN THE REST OF YOUR
COMMENTS, AS WELL.
CLARA, GOOD MORNING.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YES, THANKS.
>> I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT
2 AND I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF
OF THE COALITION.
WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE
SOLIDARITY BUDGET AND I'M
COMMENTING SPECIFICALLY ON
TRANSPORTATION AND ASKING
COUNCIL TO FUND --
>> WE JUST LOST YOU, CLARA.
WE LOST YOU AFTER ASKING
COUNCIL.
CAN YOU STILL HEAR ME?
IT MIGHT HAVE GONE ON MUTE ON
THE ACTUAL PHONE DEVICE, SO
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET YOU
BACK ONLINE.
GREAT, I SAW COUNCILMEMBER
MORALES'S SCREEN MOVING, SO I
KNOW I AM NOT FROZEN.
THAT IS A GOOD THING.
WHEN WE GET YOU BACK ON THE
LINE WE WILL KEEP YOU UNMUTED
AND COME BACK TO YOU.
SORRY THE TECHNOLOGY GOT
DISCONNECTED HERE.
GOOD MORNING.
IF YOU COULD HIT á6 TO UNMUTE.
>> HELLO?
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> NO PROBLEM.
>> MY NAME IS SHAMIR.
I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 7.
I'M CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE
SOLIDARITY BUDGET AND DEFUNDING
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT MEANS VALUING BLACK LIVES,
INDIGENOUS LIVES, AND TRULY
INVESTING IN THEM.
THE BUDGET IS THE ULTIMATE
ACCOUNTABILITY MECHANISM AND IT
IS IN YOUR HANDS.
I HOPE TO SEE YOU PROPOSE AN
AMENDMENT TO DEFUND SPD BY
DOING THE FOLLOWING AS OUTLINED
BY THE SOLIDARITY BUDGET.
DECREASE FUNDING AND AUTHORITY
FOR SWORN OFFICERS.
END ALL NEW SPD SPENDING ON
HIRING BONUSES, TECHNOLOGY,
BUILDINGS, AND WEAPONS.
TRANSFER COMMUNITY SERVICES
OFFICERS OUT OF SPD.
BY DOING THIS, COUNCIL CAN
PROVIDE PERMANENT FUNDING FOR
COMMUNITY RESOLUTION.
THERE ARE MANY WELL RESEARCHED
IDEAS.
HOUSING FOR ALL AND THE SEATTLE
GREEN NEW DEAL.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
>> THANKS FOR DIALING IN TODAY.
SEAN, FOLLOWED BY LOU.
LOU, IT HAS YOU LISTED IS NOT
PRESENT, SO IF YOU ARE ABLE TO
DIAL IN BEFORE THE END OF
PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL COME
BACK TO YOU.
JUST HIT á6 ON YOUR END AND WE
SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO.
GREAT.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I AM A SAFETY AND HOSPITALITY
SUPERVISOR FOR THE METROPOLITAN
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
COMPANY FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS.
IN THAT TIME I HAVE SEEN THE
POLICE PRESENCE IN DOWNTOWN
DWINDLE DOWN NEXT TO NOTHING.
THE RESULT OF THAT -- UNLESS IT
IS A VIOLENT CRIME, POLICE NO
LONGER RESPONDED BECAUSE OF
THIS, WE HAVE HAD TO ADJUST
SERVICES TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.
THIS INCLUDES PAIRING UP OUR
AMBASSADORS SO THEY ARE NOT IN
THE CITY ALONE.
IT IS JUST TOO DANGEROUS.
ALSO, SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK WE
ARE FOCUSED OR FORCED TO MOVE
AMBASSADORS TO CERTAIN PARTS OF
THE CITY TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM
DANGER AFTER AN ASSAULT OR
SHOOTING.
I AM HERE TO REQUEST THE CITY
PRIORITIZE NEEDED INVESTMENTS
IN PUBLIC SAFETY.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
CALLING IN TODAY.
LOU, IT STILL SHOWS YOU IS NOT
PRESENT, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO
SONJA.
GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> OKAY, HI.
I AM A WORKING MOM IN DISTRICT
3, SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE
PEOPLE'S BUDGET.
I WANT TO KNOW WHY WE HAVE MORE
FUNDING FOR POLICE IN THIS
BUDGET, LIKE HIRING BONUSES.
WE SHOULD BE FUNDING PUBLIC
SHOWERS, BATHROOMS, PARKING,
SEWAGE AND GARBAGE FOR OUR ON
HOUSE TO NEIGHBORS FORCED TO
LIVE IN THEIR VEHICLES.
ALL OVER SEATTLE PEOPLE ARE
SCREAMING ABOUT THE
HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM AND TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
WE MUST DO MORE THAN PROVIDE
FUNDING.
IS THAT WHAT THE POLICE ARE
GOING TO DO?
AGAIN AND AGAIN THE DEMOCRATIC
ESTABLISHMENT IS FAILED TOLD
POLICE ACCOUNTABLE.
WHAT IS NEEDED IS AN ELECTED
COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT BOARD WITH
POWER OF THE POLICE.
THAT MEANS REAL CONTROL OF
HIRING, FIRING, BUDGETING, AND
SUBPOENA POWER.
IF WE HAD DEMOCRATIC STRUCTURES
LIKE THAT IN PLACE FOR THE
GEORGE FLOYD PROTEST, POLICE
BEING SO EMBOLDENED TO USE
WEAPONS ON THOSE PROTESTERS.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE OFFICER
HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE 28
KILLINGS IN THE LAST DECADE.
IT IS SHAMEFUL AND UNACCEPTABLE
FOR GRIEVING FAMILIES.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IF YOU CAN SEND THE REST OF
YOUR COMMENTS, THAT WOULD BE
GREAT.
MAX, GOOD MORNING.
MAX WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
MICHAEL.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I LIVE IN DISTRICT 3 WITH MY
PARTNER AND IN A FEW WEEKS, OUR
BABY.
I AM CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE
SOLIDARITY BUDGET.
SPECIFICALLY FOR A SAFER AND
MORE WALKABLE CITY.
WHERE I LIVE NEAR THE STATION,
THERE IS A NEARLY HALF MILE GAP
AND IN BETWEEN THE STREETS,
TRYING TO CATCH A BUS REGULARLY
THEY DECIDE TO DART ACROSS
TRAFFIC RATHER THAN WALK A MILE
OUT OF THE WAY TO GET TO A
CROSSWALK.
OVER THE PAST YEARS, THE CITY
HAS PUNTED SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS
TIME AND TIME AGAIN IN THE
PROPOSED BUDGET -- WHICH IS
PATHETIC.
I SUPPORT THE SOLIDARITY BUDGET
BECAUSE OF THE COMMITMENT TO
MAKE SEATTLE A SAFE PLACE TO
GET AROUND ON FOOT AND BIKE AND
EVEN MORE SO BECAUSE OF BUDGET
CUTS TO SPD.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MICHAEL WILL BE FOLLOWED BY
JUDITH RONSTADT.
GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL.
>> MY NAME IS MICHAEL, I AM A
RENTER IN DISTRICT 3, CALLING
IN SUPPORT OF THE SOLIDARITY
BUDGET AND TO FOLLOW UP TO
DEFUND SPD, INCLUDING ENDING
ALL NEW SPENDING ON HIRING AND
BONUSES, TECHNOLOGY, BUILDINGS
AND WEAPONS.
AND REDUCING THE BUDGET TO
REFLECT 911 AND PARK IT PARKING
ENFORCEMENT.
AS WELL AS TRANSFERRING
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS AND
OTHER POSITIONS OUT OF SPD.
THANK YOU.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU.
JUDITH WILL BE FOLLOWED BY ANNA
WILLIAMS.
GOOD MORNING, JUDITH.
JUST á6 TO UNMUTE.
JUDITH, STILL MUTED ON MY END.
IF YOU CAN HIT á6.
WE ARE AT THE 10:00 HOUR, BUT
WE ONLY HAVE THREE OTHERS
SIGNED UP TO PROVIDE PUBLIC
TESTIMONY, SO IF THERE IS NO
OBJECTION I WILL EXTEND PUBLIC
COMMENT FOR THE NEXT FOUR
MINUTES TO GET THROUGH EVERYONE
AND JUDITH, WE WILL KEEP YOU
TEED UP SO YOU CAN COME OFF
MUTE.
á6.
HEARING NO OBJECTION, PUBLIC
COMMENT WILL BE EXTENDED TO GET
THROUGH THE REST AND JUDITH I
WILL KEEP YOU ON THE SCREEN.
AGAIN, á6.
AFTER JUDITH, ANNA WILLIAMSON
AND THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE LISTED
TO SPEAK THAT ARE NOT PRESENT
ARE JIM WILLIAMSON AND SEAN
JACKSON.
SO WE WILL DO ANNA AND JASON.
JAMES, I WILL KEEP YOU ON THE
LINE.
I AM STILL SEEING YOU MUTED ON
MY END, SO, STAR SIX.
WE WILL GET YOU IN THE QUEUE.
GO AHEAD ANNA.
>> GOOD MORNING, HI, I AM ANNA
AND A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT 4
AND I AM CALLING IN SUPPORT OF
THE SOLIDARITY BUDGET.
THE FUNDING SPD MEANS VALUING
BLACK LIVES, INDIGENOUS LIVES,
AND THE LIVES OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE I WORK
AS A PERSONAL TRAINER.
I THOUGHT BECAUSE I HAD
PROFESSIONAL IN MY TITLE AND
WHAT WAS BEST FOR MY CLIENTS.
I TOLD HIM HOW TO MOVE AND WHAT
TO EAT.
AFTER ALL I KNEW WHAT WAS BEST,
RIGHT?
HOW DID THAT METHOD OF TRAINING
GO?
THE PEOPLE MOST SIMILAR TO ME
-- OUR LIVED EXPERIENCES WERE
THE MOST SIMILAR AND THE REST
OF MY CLIENTS, I AM SAD TO SAY
THEY DID NOT GET THE SERVICE
THEY DESERVED.
WHAT I HAVE LEARNED IS THAT NO
MATTER HOW WELL-INTENTIONED, I
AM NOT THE EXPERT.
MY BEAUTIFUL CITY
COUNCILMEMBERS, I KNOW YOU ARE
WELL-INTENTIONED AND YOU ARE
NOT THE EXPERTS HERE.
THE SOLIDARITY BUDGET IS A
LITERAL MANUAL.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST HIT STAR SIX.
I AM STILL LOOKING AT THE TILE.
JUST NEED TO HIT STAR SIX AND
WE WILL GET YOU IN TO SPEAK.
>> I THINK I DID, CAN YOU HEAR
ME?
>> YES, THANK YOU.
>> HI, THANK YOU FOR THE EXTRA
TIME.
GOOD MORNING.
I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
COALITION -- WE SUPPORT THE
ONGOING WORK FOR MEANINGFUL
ALTERNATIVES TO THE LEGAL
SYSTEM, SUCH AS THE CAPACITY
BUILDING PROGRAM AMONG OTHERS.
WE NEED ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE
SPECIFICALLY TAILORED TO UNIQUE
HARM EXPERIENCED AND ONGOING
DANGER FACED.
THERE IS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE
IN THIS AREA AND THEY HAVE LONG
OFFERED A RANGE OF SUPPORT
OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM TO PROTECT
SAFETY.
AND HOLD THE PEOPLE WHO CAUSE
HARM ACCOUNTABLE.
SOME EXAMPLES INCLUDE CREATIVE
AND STEADY SAFETY PLANNING WHEN
A SURVIVOR DOES NOT WANT TO
REPORT TO POLICE.
PROGRAMS LIKE EQUITABLE
RELATIONSHIP CLASSES.
ENLISTING TRUSTED COMMUNITY
MEMBERS TO INTERVENE WHEN
VIOLENCE OCCURS.
ADVOCACY FOR SURVIVORS.
THE PROGRAM NEEDS FINANCIAL
INVESTMENTS TO CONTINUE AND TO
KEEP INNOVATING ON THESE
ALTERNATIVES.
>> THANK YOU.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND IN THE REST
OF YOUR COMMENTS, THAT WOULD BE
WONDERFUL.
AND JASON, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
I JUST WANTED TO ECHO A COUPLE
OF COMMENTS.
>> JASON, COULD YOU SPEAK UP
JUST A LITTLE BIT?
GREAT, THAT IS BETTER.
>> HI, AGAIN MY NAME IS JASON.
I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 4.
I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE
ACCOUNTABILITY BUDGET.
ITEMS IN THE UPCOMING CITY
BUDGET.
ADDING THEM UP, IT LOOKS LIKE
WE'RE GOING TO BUDGET $10.5
MILLION FOR AN ACCOUNTABILITY
SYSTEM THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE
SEEM SATISFIED WITH.
AT THE VERY LEAST I WOULD WANT
THE COUNCIL TO DEEPLY LOOK INTO
THE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINTS
THAT SHOW THE OFFICE OF
INSPECTOR GENERAL IS
PRIORITIZING POLITICAL
RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE OFFICE
OF POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND
INTENTIONALLY TELLING EMPLOYEES
NOT TO CREATE WRITTEN RECORDS
THAT REFLECT POORLY ON THE
OFFICE OF POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY, WHICH IS CRAZY.
THE JOB IS TO INVESTIGATE AND
HOLD THE OFFICE OF POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY, ACCOUNTABLE.
IT IS A CRAZY SYSTEM.
IT SHOULD BE COMPLETELY
REDESIGNED BUT AT THE LEAST IT
NEEDS TO BE HELD TO ACCOUNT
BEFORE YOU FUND IT AGAIN, THANK
YOU.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND
JUDITH, I STILL SEE YOU LISTED
AS MUTED.
WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE
MORE CHANCE.
STAR SIX.
SORRY IF IT IS FRUSTRATING OVER
THERE.
I KNOW SOME FOLKS HAVE BEEN
HITTING POUND SIX, SO I WILL
KEEP YOU UP FOR ANOTHER SECOND.
I STILL SEE YOU MUTED, SO I
WILL MOVE US ON.
PLEASE DO SEND YOUR COMMENTS TO
COUNCIL@SEATTLE.GOV.
THAT DOES CONCLUDE TODAY'S
PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL HEAD
RIGHT INTO ITEMS OF BUSINESS
AS WE HAVE A PACKED AGENDA.
MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE
READ ITEM NUMBER ONE INTO THE
RECORD.
>> AGENDA ITEM -- I APOLOGIZE.
AGENDA ITEM ONE, SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> THANKS, MADAM CLERK.
WELCOME CALVIN CHOW FROM
CENTRAL STAFF.
WELCOME BACK TO THE STAGE.
ALY PENNUCCI.
AND I SEE COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN AS CHAIR OF
TRANSPORTATION ON THE LINE.
THANK YOU.
WE WILL HAVE CALVIN BEGIN THE
INITIAL COMMENTS OF THAT SOUNDS
GOOD AND THEN WE WILL HAVE YOU
BE THE FIRST TO OFFER COMMENTS
AND THOUGHTS, AS WELL.
COLLEAGUES, I AM GOING TO
SWITCH.
THE CHAIR'S PREROGATIVE.
THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY ARE ALL
VERY LONG AND I APPRECIATE THE
WORK CENTRAL STAFF HAVE DONE,
SO FOR TODAY I WILL ASK IF
COUNCILMEMBERS WHO HAVE PURVIEW
OVER THESE SPECIFIC AREAS, IF
YOU DID HAVE OPENING COMMENTS,
YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT,
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE
CHANCE TO HEAR FROM YOU FIRST.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, CALVIN, I
WILL ASK COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN
IF THERE IS ANYTHING YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SAY.
YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO THAT AND
WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS, BUT
THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS
THROUGHOUT, SO I DON'T WANT TO
MISS THE CHANCE TO GET YOU IN
FOR SOME OPENING ONES.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
IF IT IS OKAY WITH YOU, WE
COULD JUST HAVE CALVIN CHOW
START HIS PRESENTATION AND I
THINK I WILL HAVE COMMENTS WHEN
WE GET TO THE ISSUE I.D.
SECTION OF IT.
>> THAT'S GREAT.
THANK YOU AND WHEN WE GET TO
THOSE ISSUES, WE WOULD LOVE TO
HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AND GET
OTHER PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON THE
ISSUE I.D.'S.
CALVIN, IS IT OKAY IF PEOPLE DO
HAVE QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT IF
THEY ASK YOU?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
LET'S TAKE IT AWAY ON SEATTLE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
>> COUNCILMEMBERS, GOOD
MORNING.
MY NAME IS CALVIN CHOW WITH
CENTRAL STAFF AND I WILL BE
REVIEWING THE PROPOSED BUDGET
AND MY COLLEAGUE WILL BE
MANAGING THE SLIDES.
MY PRESENTATION WILL BE A HIGH-
LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE ISSUE
PAPER, ALSO ATTACHED TO THE
AGENDA.
I THOUGHT WE SHOULD START WITH
AN OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET.
NEXT SLIDE, THANK YOU.
SO THE FIRST SLIDE SUMMARIZES
SDOT OPERATING EXPENSES ONLY
AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED
BUDGET IS ABOUT 15% HIGHER THAN
THE 2021 ADOPTED BUDGET.
$318 MILLION.
THERE ARE TWO MAIN FACTORS FOR
THIS INCREASE.
THE FIRST IS IN ABILITY
OPERATIONS, WHICH IS ROW A.
THIS INCREASED BY 26%, BECAUSE
IT INCLUDES 19 MILLION
ADDITIONAL PURCHASES FOR METRO
THAT ARE PART OF THE
PROPOSITION ONE TRANSIT
MEASURE.
THE OTHER MAJOR FACTOR IS IN
ROW F, WHICH REFLECTS THE
TRANSFER OF THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT DIVISION FROM SPD
TO SDOT, SO THAT IS $18.4
MILLION OF GENERAL FUND.
IF YOU EXCLUDE THESE
ADJUSTMENTS, THEN THE OPERATING
BUDGET IS REALLY A CONTINUATION
OF 2021 LEVELS OF SERVICE.
I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THE
BUDGET HAS NOT RESTORED
OPERATIONAL CUTS MADE DURING
THE 2021 BUDGET, $5.9 MILLION,
SCATTERED BETWEEN A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT SDOT PROGRAMS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS CAPITAL
APPROPRIATIONS FOR SDOT SPENDING
AND AS A REMINDER, CAPITAL
SPENDING CAN VARY FROM YEAR TO
YEAR, BASED ON PROJECT
SCHEDULES.
FLUCTUATIONS ARE NOT
NECESSARILY A RESULT OF POLICY
CHANGES.
THE 2022 PROPOSED BUDGET IS 11%
HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR.
ABOUT $400 MILLION FOR CAPITAL.
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PROPOSALS
ARE $5.2 MILLION FOR BRIDGE
REPAIR AND 2.4 TO RESTART THE
STREETCAR PROJECT.
BOTH OF THESE WILL BE DISCUSSED
IN THE ISSUES SECTION.
IN TOTAL, INCLUDING ALL CAPITAL
AND OPERATING COSTS, THE
PROPOSED BUDGET IS 13% MORE
THAN THE 2021 ADOPTED BUDGET AT
ABOUT $718 MILLION.
AT THE VERY BOTTOM --
>> JUST VERY BRIEFLY, CALVIN.
I WANTED TO JUST REMIND FOLKS,
THE CHAT FUNCTION DOES NOT
NECESSARILY WORK AS THE BEST
FEATURE ON THIS REMOTE SYSTEM
THAT WE HAVE HERE, SO I AM
GOING TO ASK FOR FOLKS TO LET
ME KNOW.
ARE YOU HEARING ANY FEEDBACK
AND IF SO, IF THERE IS ANYTHING
WE CAN DO ON THE TECHNICAL
SIDE?
SOME FOLKS ARE HEARING STATIC
FEEDBACK.
WE WILL JUST KEEP OUR EAR ON IT
AND IF YOU HAVE TECHNICAL
CONCERNS OR AUDIO CONCERNS, LET
US KNOW AND WE WILL TRY TO GET
THOSE FIXED.
SORRY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
IT IS COMING THROUGH LOUD AND
CLEAR ON SEATTLE CHANNEL AND
FOR ALL OF OUR COLLEAGUES.
>> IF YOU BEAR WITH ME FOR A
MOMENT, I WILL MOVE --
>> WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH HIGH-
TECH HEADPHONES WITH A
MICROPHONE.
FOLKS FOLLOWING ALONG AT HOME?
THANKS SO MUCH.
BEAR WITH US ONE SECOND.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALERTING US,
COUNCILMEMBERS.
>> THAT SOUNDS BETTER TO ME.
THERE WAS A HIGH PITCHED
SOMETHING GOING ON.
>> THANK YOU, I AM SEEING
MULTIPLE NODS.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN AND I
DID NOT HEAR IT, SO WE MIGHT
NEED TO GET OUR HEARING
CHECKED, BUT OTHERS APPARENTLY
DID.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
IS THAT BETTER?
>> I THINK IT IS GOOD.
CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE
CLOSER TO YOU?
>> IS THAT BETTER?
>> I THINK SO.
I AM SEEING NODS.
CALVIN, THANK YOU FOR THAT MIX.
SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
>> THAT IS FINE.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
POSITION LIST AT THE BOTTOM.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DEPARTMENT
IS ACTUALLY INCREASING A NUMBER
OF POSITIONS BY ABOUT 13% MORE.
SORRY, 16% MORE.
THIS INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 157.5
FTES THAT ARE NEW TO SDOT.
ABOUT 24 ARE CONVERGENT
TEMPORARY POSITIONS TO
PERMANENT POSITIONS THAT WOULD
OTHERWISE EXPIRE IN 2022.
THERE ARE 6 1/2 THAT ARE NEW
POSITIONS WITH NO BUDGET
APPROPRIATIONS REQUIRED OR
REQUESTED, USING FUNDING WITHIN
THE EXISTING PROGRAM BUDGETS.
AND SEVEN FTES THAT ARE NEW
POSITIONS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS SDOT REVENUES
AND RESOURCES THAT SUPPORT SDOT
EXPENSES.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN ROW O, THE
GENERAL CONTRIBUTION IS
INCREASED AND THIS IS PRIMARILY
DUE TO THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT
TRANSFER.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE MOVE
SEATTLE LEVY REQUIRES A MINIMUM
CONTRIBUTION TO SDOT.
THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR 2022
IS $46.4 MILLION.
IF YOU EXCLUDE THE PARKING
ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AND TAX
REVENUE FROM THE SDOT BUDGET,
THE REMAINING GENERAL FUND
CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE $49.5
MILLION, STILL HIGHER THAN THE
MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.
I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT
THESE RESOURCES, WHILE THEY
MATCH EXPENDITURES, THEY INCLUDE
A SIGNIFICANT DRAWDOWN OF FUND
BALANCE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME OF SDOT'S
MAJOR FUNDS AND HIGHLIGHTS THAT
THE DEPARTMENT IS RELYING ON
ALMOST $41 MILLION OF FUND
BALANCE.
SOME OF THIS IS EXPECTED,
PARTICULARLY FOR MOVE SEATTLE,
WHERE THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH
SPENDING ON PORTFOLIO PROJECTS.
THAT EXPIRES IN 2024 AND IS
TIED TO A CAPITAL SPENDING PLAN,
BUT THE OTHER FUNDS REALLY DO
PROVIDE FUNDING FOR ONGOING
OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.
EVEN WITH THE USE OF FUND
BALANCE, THE BUDGET RELIES ON
SIGNIFICANT RECOVERY OF
TRANSPORTATION REVENUE SOURCES,
THOUGH NOT BACK TO PRE-PANDEMIC
LEVELS.
THERE IS A RISK THAT IF
RESOURCES DON'T RECOVER AS
QUICKLY AS PROJECTED, WE WOULD
HAVE TO USE ADDITIONAL FUND
BALANCE OR CUT BACK ON LEVELS
OF SERVICE.
WITH CURRENT FINANCIAL
PROJECTIONS, THE TRANSPORTATION
FUND WOULD NOT BECOME NET
POSITIVE IN REVENUE UNTIL 2024.
SO, THAT SORT OF CONCLUDES MY
BROAD OVERVIEW AND THE NEXT
SLIDES WILL COVER ISSUES FOR
COUNCIL ATTENTION, SO I'M HAPPY
TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I'M
MOVE INTO THAT.
SEEING NONE.
SO, --
>> PEDERSEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
OFFER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> THANK YOU, MY COMMENTS WILL
BE SIMILAR TO THE ONES I OFFERED
WHEN SDOT PRESENTED TO US,
WHICH IS THAT WE ARE VERY
APPRECIATIVE OF THE LEADERSHIP
AT SDOT.
HE HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB,
ESPECIALLY WITH SO MANY
DIFFERENT PRIORITIES.
TO TRY TO JUGGLE AND
SYNTHESIZE.
THE SEATTLE BRIDGE CLOSURE.
DEALING WITH THAT EMERGENCY.
I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE
CITY WORKERS IN THE FIELD,
WORKING ON THESE PROJECTS FOR
US.
THERE ARE A LOT OF VISION ZERO
SAFETY PROJECTS BEING
IMPLEMENTED AND I KNOW THERE
WILL BE AN INTEREST IN LOOKING
AT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PROJECTS
LIKE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY PROJECTS
IN OUR DISTRICTS AND BIGGER
PICTURE, YOU KNOW, AS I
MENTIONED BEFORE, ONE
DISAPPOINTMENT WITH THIS BUDGET
IS THAT IT SEEMS TO KICK THE
CAN DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN ON
BRIDGES AND WE HAVE
CONSISTENTLY DISCUSSED THIS
ISSUE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PAST
YEAR AND NOW THAT WE HAVE THE
FULL $700 MILLION BUDGET IN
FRONT OF US, MY QUESTIONS LATER
AS WE GET INTO ISSUE I.D.
WILL BE HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS A
YES AND MOMENT, WHERE WE ARE
HONORING PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS
AND DECISIONS ON HOW TO ALLOCATE
THE $7 MILLION OF VEHICLE
LICENSING.
THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT IN
THE PAST, IN THE WAY.
BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE FULL
BUDGET AND WE ALSO HAVE AN
INFRASTRUCTURE BILL OR TWO
INFRASTRUCTURE BILLS, WE HOPE,
THAT ARE COMING FROM THE
CONGRESS.
I HOPE THIS IS A MOMENT WITH
THE WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE
CLOSURE, WITH THE BRIDGE AUDIT,
THAT WE, AS A COUNCIL, WELL,
THE EXECUTIVE HAS NOT DONE MUCH
MORE WITH BRIDGES.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO DO MORE FOR BRIDGES.
MULTIMODAL BRIDGES.
THINKING ABOUT THE UNIVERSITY
BRIDGE AND ALSO THINKING ABOUT
COMMITMENTS MADE BY VOTERS.
IF YOU REMEMBER, THE SEATTLE
TIMES DID AN EXCELLENT PIECE ON
HOW THERE WERE RE-ESTIMATES OF
THE SEISMIC UPGRADE COSTS TO
BRIDGES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND
THERE WERE 16 BRIDGES PROMISED
FOR UPGRADES AND SDOT, WHEN
THEY GOT REVISED ESTIMATES,
THEY TOOK SOME BRIDGES OFF THE
LIST.
SO, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT
ADDRESSING THOSE BRIDGE ISSUES
THAT INCLUDES THE FREMONT
BRIDGE, THE UNIVERSITY BRIDGE.
THE SECOND AVENUE SOUTHBRIDGE,
WHICH WAS RANKED POOR BY THE
BRIDGE AUDIT.
SO, AS WE GET AN ISSUE I.D., I
WANT TO TAKE AN EXPANSIVE VIEW
OF THE $700 MILLION BUDGET AND
ALSO LOOKING AT THE TRANSIT
INVESTMENTS.
AS YOU KNOW, WE ADDED $20 --
WHICH ADDED $7 MILLION.
SO, THAT FUNDING, WHAT WE WILL
LEARN LATER I THINK IN THIS, IT
IS IN CALVIN'S EXCELLENT MEMO,
THAT THERE ARE SOME RESERVES.
SDOT IS HOLDING BACK A LOT OF
MONEY FOR TRANSIT AND I KNOW
THERE IS A DESIRE TO DO MORE.
I DO JUST WANT TO DAYLIGHT THE
RESERVES THAT ARE JUST SITTING
THERE, ABOUT $17 MILLION, I
BELIEVE.
SO WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT
AS WE GO THROUGH ISSUE I.D.
CHAIR MOSQUEDA, THANK YOU,
THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS
AND COMMENTS.
>> THANK YOU.
HAVING RECENTLY TRIED TO BRING
A BIKE TRAILER FOR A KID ON ONE
OF THESE BRIDGES AND HAVING TO
TAKE THE ROAD BECAUSE IT WOULD
NOT FIT, I COMPLETELY
APPRECIATE THE CONNECTION YOU
HAVE DRAWN BETWEEN BRIDGES AND
MULTIMODAL TRANSIT OPTIONS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING INTO
ISSUE I.D.
I AM NOT SEEING ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS.
LET'S GO AHEAD.
>> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO THE FIRST ISSUE FOR
DISCUSSION IS THE VEHICLE
LICENSE FEE.
LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AUTHORIZED
AN INCREASE IN THE FEE FROM $20-
$40 AND AT THAT TIME COUNCIL
DIRECTED SDOT TO ENGAGE IN A
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS TO DEVELOP
A SPENDING PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL
REVENUE.
AFTER SDOT COMPLETED THE
PROCESS, COUNCIL APPROVED A
SPENDING PLAN THAT FUNDED
OPERATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR SAFE
STREETS, SIDEWALKS, BRIDGES AND
STRUCTURES, TRANSPORTATION
MANAGEMENT AND PLANNING.
IN APPROVING THE 2021 SPENDING,
COUNCIL ALSO DIRECTED SDOT TO
DEVELOP A LIST OF PROJECTS
THAT COULD BE FUNDED BY $100
MILLION OF BOND FINANCING.
THIS WAS THE IDEA OF TURNING
THE REVENUE STREAM INTO DEBT
SERVICE TO FINANCE A LARGE BOND
OUTLAY.
THE PROJECT LIST WAS TO INCLUDE
A MINIMUM OF $75 MILLION FOR
BRIDGE PROJECTS AND THAT IS ON
THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES, SO WE
WILL GO TO THAT IN A SECOND.
THE 2022 PROPOSED BUDGET DOES
NOT INCLUDE FUNDING FOR THIS
LIST, BUT PROPOSES TO CONTINUE
SPENDING ON THE SAME
OPERATIONAL PROGRAMS AS 2021.
SO I HAVE LISTED HERE AN OPTION
TO REDIRECT THOSE RESOURCES TO
OTHER PRIORITIES.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO, THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES
TO SHOW THE SDOT PROJECT LIST
AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT
ISSUE TWO AND THREE, I PROVIDE
A SUMMARY OF THE BRIDGE AND
VISION ZERO SPENDING TO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL CONTEXT TO THIS
CONVERSATION.
SO, THIS FIRST SLIDE SHOWS THE
$75 MILLION OF PROPOSED, NOT
PROPOSED, BUT IDENTIFIED BRIDGE
PROJECTS.
THERE ARE EIGHT PROJECTS IN
TOTAL IN THE SPENDING IS SPREAD
OUT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS,
WHICH IF PURSUED WOULD PROVIDE
TIME FOR SDOT TO MOVE FROM
PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND
FINISHED DESIGN.
THESE ARE TOTAL ESTIMATED
PROJECT COSTS AND IN DEVELOPING
THIS PROJECT LIST, SDOT DID NOT
RELY ON EXTERNAL GRANT FUNDING.
I THINK I SEE A QUESTION.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
YOU ARE STILL ON MUTE.
>> WE ARE LIMITING OURSELVES TO
CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AT THIS
POINT?
>> I THINK IF YOUR HAND OR
COMMENT WAS MORE RELATED TO
WEIGHING IN ON THE OPTIONS,
THEN I MIGHT WAIT FOR US TO GET
THROUGH THE FULL SLIDE.
>> YEAH, I THINK MY COMMENT IS
MORE GRANULAR THAN THE OPTIONS.
IT IS MORE TO DO WITH THE
PROJECTS ON THE LIST.
>> YEAH, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
>> THANKS.
I JUST WANT TO NOTE, OF COURSE,
THE FREEWAY WHICH CONNECTS THE
BRIDGE, THE PENINSULA.
THE VIADUCT, AND THE REST OF
THE ROAD HEADING EAST TOWARD I-
5. THESE ARE PROPOSED FOR
PROJECTS FOR 2022 AND 2023 AND
2024.
THE IMPRESSION FROM THE
QUESTIONS THAT WE SUBMITTED TO
SDOT, THAT THESE PROJECTS WOULD
REQUIRE ROAD AND LANE CLOSURES.
I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THE
RECORD, IF THE OPTION THAT
MOVES FORWARD, RELATED TO
PURSUING BOND FINANCING FOR
BRIDGES, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A
LOOK AT THIS LIST.
I REALLY FEEL THAT WEST SEATTLE
NEEDS A BREAK AND I THINK I
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
KEEP THE ROADWAY OPEN AND FREE
FROM CLOSURES AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE FOR THE NEXT FEW
YEARS.
THANKS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.
I THINK THE POLICY OPTION
BEFORE YOU IS REALLY, DO YOU
WANT TO CONTINUE USING THIS
FUNDING FOR OPERATIONAL FUNDING
OR DO YOU WANT TO DIVERT TO A
CAPITAL PROGRAM AND THEN WORK
THROUGH THE DETAILS OF WHAT THE
CAPITAL PROGRAM MIGHT LOOK LIKE?
AND THIS IS ONE OPTION THAT
IDENTIFIED PROJECTS THAT SDOT
IS AWARE OF AND WE CAN WORK TO
MOVE THINGS AROUND IF THAT IS
THE DIRECTION COUNCIL GOES.
>> CHAIR, MAY I?
>> YES, GO AHEAD.
>> I KNOW THIS IS HOW IT WAS
FRAMED IN THE SPRING, BECAUSE
WE CREATED THIS ADDITIONAL
FUNDING AND THEN, AS WE LIKE TO
SAY, A ROBUST DEBATE ABOUT HOW
TO INVEST THOSE DOLLARS.
EVEN THOUGH THAT IS HOW IT WAS
FRAMED BEFORE, BECAUSE WE HAVE
THE NEW MONEY AND IT WAS A
RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF
MONEY, NOW WE HAVE THE FULL
$700 MILLION BUDGET, SO I DON'T
THINK IT IS EITHER OR.
IT COULD BE YES AND, DEPENDING
ON HOW WE UNPACK THE ENTIRE
BUDGET.
I APPRECIATE SEEING THESE
NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN FOR
POTENTIAL PROJECTS.
I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION DID NOT CHOOSE
TO FUND THEM OR PROVIDE A WAY
TO FUND THEM.
WE KNOW THERE ARE WAYS TO FUND
THEM, SUCH AS ISSUING BONDS,
BUT WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL HOW
WE PAY FOR THE BONDS, SO WE ARE
NOT TAKING AWAY FROM OTHER
PROGRAMS.
THERE MAY BE A WAY TO DO THAT
AS WE CONTINUE BUDGET
DISCUSSIONS.
THANK YOU.
>> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE $25
MILLION OF NON-BRIDGE PROJECTS
THAT SDOT IDENTIFIED.
NINE PROJECTS.
SIMILARLY THESE ARE SPREAD OUT
OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
GENERALLY SMALLER PROJECTS, NOT
AS COMPLICATED AS THE BRIDGE
PROJECTS.
AS PART OF THE RESPONSE TO THE
REQUEST, THEY ONLY IDENTIFIED
PROJECTS THAT WERE ELIGIBLE FOR
BOND FINANCING, SO THEY ONLY
INCLUDED PROJECTS WITH A LIFE
OVER 20 YEARS.
I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT THE
NEXT COUPLE OF ITEMS WILL COVER
WHAT IS IN THE SPENDING, BUT IF
THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS,
I CAN MOVE ON.
>> I AM NOT SEEING ANY HANDS,
CALVIN.
>> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO THE NEXT ISSUE FOR
DISCUSSION IS THE BRIDGE
INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING.
IN 2020, THE CITY COMPLETED A
REPORT ON THE BRIDGE
MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AND THAT
MADE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
BUSINESS PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS,
WHICH SDOT IS IMPLEMENTING.
THE REPORT IDENTIFIED AN
ONGOING NEED FOR $34 MILLION
PER YEAR FOR BRIDGE
MAINTENANCE, BASED ON THE
ASSUMPTION THAT ANNUAL
MAINTENANCE SHOULD BE 1% OF THE
TOTAL REPLACEMENT COST OF THE
ASSET.
THE REPORT FOUND THE AVERAGE
SPENDING ON BRIDGE MAINTENANCE
FROM 2006 TO 2019 WAS $6.6
MILLION PER YEAR.
CALCULATING THIS FIGURE, THE
AUDIT FOCUSED ONLY ON ROUTINE
MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS AND
EXCLUDED ASSET PRESERVATION
PROGRAMS SUCH AS SEISMIC
UPGRADES.
AND BRIDGE REPLACEMENTS.
THE NEXT SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE
TOTAL PROPOSED CAPITAL AND
OPERATING PROGRAMS RELATED TO
BRIDGES.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO, THIS TABLE --
>> SORRY, LET'S DO ONE ISSUE AT
A TIME IF WE CAN.
IF WE CAN GO BACK ONE SLIDE
REAL QUICK.
DO YOU MIND BACKING UP ONE
MORE, SO WE CAN HAVE KIND OF
CONCLUDING THOUGHTS ON THE
FIRST ISSUE I.D.?
COUNCILMEMBER 1027, DID YOU
HAVE -- OH, YOU ARE STILL ON
MUTE.
>> THANK YOU.
IT WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE ABOUT
THE BRIDGE MAINTENANCE PIECE
FROM THE AUDIT.
I WANTED TO PROVIDE -- YEAH,
THAT SLIDE.
$34 MILLION WAS THE LOW-END.
THE AUDITOR HAD A RANGE SAYING
ON THE LOW-END, $34 MILLION
ANNUALLY AND UP TO $102 MILLION
ANNUALLY, WITH 1 TO 3% OF TOTAL
ASSET VALUE OF BRIDGES.
SOME FOLKS WOULD TAKE THE
MIDPOINT OF THE $34 MILLION AND
$102 MILLION AND JUST SAY $68
MILLION IS WHAT THE ONGOING
REPAIR MAINTENANCE COST FOR THE
INVESTMENTS WOULD IDEALLY BE.
IF WE HAD THOSE RESOURCES.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
CALVIN, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT
YOU, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE
WE ARE FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THE
ISSUE IDENTIFICATION.
THAT YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN YOUR
MEMO.
SO IF FOLKS AT ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO
THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE, WHERE
THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
OR QUESTIONS PEOPLE HAD ON
ISSUE I.D., NUMBER ONE, AND THE
OPTIONS?
OKAY, GREAT.
THANKS, CALVIN.
SORRY ABOUT THAT AND PLEASE
CONTINUE.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I APPRECIATE YOU HOLDING ME --
>> NO, YOU ARE DOING GREAT.
I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF
CONTEXT, SO THANKS FOR WALKING
US THROUGH IT ALL.
WILL YOU TURN TO THE NEXT
SLIDE?
THANK YOU.
THIS TABLE SHOWS ONLY
PROGRAMMATIC SPENDING ON
BRIDGES IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
THIS IS PROGRAMMATIC SPENDING,
SO THE WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE, FOR
EXAMPLE, IS NOT INCLUDED.
YOU CAN SEE THE BULK OF
SPENDING IS TIED TO THE
TIMELINE WHICH EXPIRES IN 2024.
THE PROGRAM THAT COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN MENTIONED EARLIER
FUNDS CURRENTLY NINE BRIDGES AS
A DELIVERABLE OF THE SEATTLE
LEVY WITH THIS PARTICULAR LINE
ITEM.
AT THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE TABLE
WE ONLY SHOW OPERATIONAL
SPENDING, BUT THESE PROGRAMS
ARE EXPECTED TO BE ONGOING AND
FUNDED IN FUTURE PROJECTS.
THESE COVER OPERATIONS AND
MAINTENANCE FOR ALL OF THE
BRIDGE AND STRUCTURES DIVISION.
THIS INCLUDES OTHER FUNCTIONS
NOT TIED TO BRIDGES, SUCH AS
ENGINEERING SUPPORT FOR OTHER
PROJECTS.
IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET THERE IS
A PROPOSAL TO ADD $5.2 MILLION
FOR BRIDGE CAPITAL SPENDING TO
FUND REPAIRS ON BRIDGES.
THE BUDGET INCLUDES $1.9
MILLION FROM THE MONEY WE
DISCUSSED EARLIER FOR BRIDGE
MAINTENANCE, WHICH LARGELY
REPLACED WHAT WAS A ONE-TIME,
$2 MILLION GENERAL FUND ADD THE
COUNCIL ADDED IN THE ADOPTED
BUDGET.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS
ISSUE?
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD,
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU MIGHT
HAVE MENTIONED THIS, BUT ITEM
D, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE
SEATTLE LEVY ITEMS FOR BALLARD
BRIDGE AND FREMONT BRIDGE,
CORRECT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
IT IS THE ONES APPROVED BY THE
RE-ASSESSMENT FROM 2020 OR
2019.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN THE
REALIGNMENT HAPPENED.
THERE WERE TWO PHASES OF THAT.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> WITH NO OTHER QUESTIONS, GO
TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AGAIN, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
CONTEXT, IT IS VISION ZERO
SPENDING.
VISION ZERO WAS THE CITY GOAL
OF ELIMINATING TRAFFIC
FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES
ON CITY STREETS BY 2030.
IT IS A SAFETY GOAL FOR BOTH
SDOT AND THE TRAVELING PUBLIC
AND BECAUSE IT IS AN
OVERARCHING VISION, IT CAN BE
DIFFICULT TO POINT OUT THE
RELATED CAPITAL SPENDING.
MANY INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, LIKE
THE GEORGETOWN SOUTH PARK TRAIL
ARE FUNDAMENTALLY VISION ZERO
PROJECTS, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE
PROGRAMS DEDICATED TO
IMPLEMENTING IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, ON THE NEXT SLIDE I HAVE
PROVIDED A SUMMARY OF PROPOSED
SPENDING FOR THE CIP PROJECTS.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS ONLY SHOWS
SECURED FUNDING IN THE CIP AND
SPENDING REFLECTS WHY IT IS ON
SEATTLE LEVY, SIMILAR TO THE
BRIDGE PROJECTS.
THERE IS ONLY ONE PROJECT
ACTUALLY NAMED FOR VISION ZERO
AND IT FOCUSES ON THE HIGH-
TRAFFIC ARTERIALS WITH THE
HIGHEST NUMBER OF CRASHES.
THAT IS IN ROW A. THE
NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CONTROL
PROGRAM, FOCUSES FOR CALMING ON
NON-ARTERIAL STREETS.
THERE ARE TWO BUDGET PROGRAMS.
ITEM C AND D. LARGE PRODUCTS
AND THE STREET FUND, WHICH
FUNDS PROJECTS SELECTED BY THE
COMMUNITY.
THOSE ARE NOT CURRENTLY
ACCEPTING NEW REQUESTS, BUT
THEY ARE FUNDING PROJECTS
ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND IN THE
QUEUE FOR DELIVERY.
THEN THE REMAINING PROJECTS
THAT ARE LISTED, THE MASTER
PLAN AND BIKE MASTER PLAN.
I WANTED TO NOTE FOR BOTH THE
VISION ZERO PROGRAMS AND THE
BRIDGE PROGRAMS, AND ACTUALLY
SDOT IN GENERAL, WITH MOVE
SEATTLE EXPIRING IN 2024,
THINKING THROUGH WHAT A
PROPOSAL MIGHT LOOK LIKE IS THE
NEXT MAJOR OPPORTUNITY TO
CONTEMPLATE MAJOR SHIFTS IN
SPENDING PRIORITIES.
WE HAVE LEVERAGED A LOT OF
TRANSPORTATION REVENUES AND WE
ARE COMING UP ON A TIME WHERE
WE CAN DRAMATICALLY RETHINK OR
RE-PRIORITIZE SPENDING FOR
ANOTHER WINDOW IF WE GO FORWARD
WITH THE PROPOSED RENEWAL.
I WILL STOP HERE IF THERE ARE
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SLIDE.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS?
OKAY, I AM NOT SEEING ANY.
CALVIN.
>> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> ISSUE NUMBER FOUR IS
INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING.
OF GREAT INTEREST TO ALL OF US
IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL
WHICH PASSED IN AUGUST.
THAT BILL HAS $1.2 TRILLION FOR
TRANSPORTATION, UTILITY, AND
INTERNET INVESTMENTS ON THIS
INCLUDED THE RE-AUTHORIZATION
OF THE ACT.
THE FUNDING PROPOSAL COVERS
FIVE YEARS, 2022 THROUGH 2026,
BUT IT REQUIRES PASSAGE IN THE
HOUSE BEFORE BECOMING LAW.
MOST OF THE FUNDING WOULD FLOW
THROUGH EXISTING GRANT PROGRAMS
AND ALLOCATIONS.
SO WE WILL NEED TO MONITOR
THOSE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS AS
THE FEDERAL AGENCIES ROLL THEM
OUT.
SDOT HAS EXPERIENCE IN SECURING
FEDERAL FUNDS, MOST RECENTLY
FOR MADISON AND THE WEST
SEATTLE BRIDGE.
SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE MAY
WANT TO PUT FORTH NEED DESIGNED
TO BE ELIGIBLE AND COMPETITIVE
FOR THESE GROUNDS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> MY OFFICE DID, I DID SPEAK
WITH THE STAFF AT THE D.C.
OFFICE AND COMMUNITY STAFF.
ONE OF OUR SENATORS, CANTWELL,
TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE
$1.2 TRILLION BIPARTISAN
INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.
THE GOOD NEWS IS, THAT INCLUDES
A SMALL BRIDGE, COMPETITIVE
GRANT PROGRAM AND THEY DID
CONFIRM THAT THE CITY HAVING
LOCAL DOLLARS TO MATCH WOULD
PUT US IN A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE
POSITION.
COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES WE
HAVE A LOT OF BRIDGES AND WE
HAVE A LOT OF SMALLER BRIDGES.
AT IS ANOTHER, TRYING TO PITCH
THE CONCEPT.
THERE IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY
WITH THIS FEDERAL BILL TO PUT
TOGETHER LOCAL MATCHING
DOLLARS.
IT IS TRUE THAT SDOT HAD RECENT
SUCCESS IN GETTING THINGS
FUNDED.
PART OF THAT I BELIEVE IS THE
WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE EMERGENCY
WE HAD.
I THINK EVERYONE RECOGNIZED IT
WAS AN EMERGENCY, SO WE WERE
ABLE TO GET MATCHING FUNDS.
I WANTED TO JUST NOTE THAT ONE
OF THE AUTHORS OF THIS BILL IS
SAYING THAT HAVING A LOCAL
FUNDING MATCH WOULD PUT US IN A
MORE COMPETITIVE POSITION FOR A
LOCAL SMALL BRIDGE PROGRAM.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN.
I WANT TO ECHO YOUR
APPRECIATION FOR CONGRESSIONAL
DELEGATIONS.
AND OUR SEATTLE DELEGATION, WHO
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
I ALSO WANT TO ECHO THEIR
STRONG SUPPORT FOR CONTINUATION
OF CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTION AND
DISCRETION SO THEY CAN IDENTIFY
PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND BE ABLE
TO MAINTAIN THAT AT THE CENTRAL
LEVEL.
SOMETHING THEY HAVE BEEN
FIGHTING FOR.
SO I APPRECIATE THEIR WORK ON
THAT AND I ALSO WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF
PASSING THE TRADITIONAL
INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, FOR BOTH
BRIDGES AND ROADS, ALONG WITH
HUMAN INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE
BUILD BACK BETTER ACT.
I THINK THAT IS A CONVERSATION
OUR CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS ARE
HAVING RIGHT NOW.
I APPRECIATE LEADERSHIP ON
THAT, SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE
ABLE TO ENACT INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR ROADS, BRIDGES, AND
FAMILIES ACROSS OUR CITY SOON.
THANK YOU FOR RAISING THIS AND
WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR
UPDATES ON HOW THAT MOVES.
IF THERE IS ANYTHING FROM YOUR
CONVERSATIONS WITH SENATORS AS
WELL, COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN
THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING TO SHOW
SUPPORT BROADLY, I AM HAPPY TO
WORK WITH YOU AS WELL.
TO SEND THOSE MESSAGES.
DID YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HAND
UP?
OKAY.
GREAT.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ,
ANYTHING FROM YOU?
>> I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST AND
CALVIN, MAYBE YOU HAVE DONE
THAT, BUT HAVE YOU HAD
CORDINATION WITH FOLKS AT THE
OFFICE OF RELATIONS ON THIS
ISSUE AND PERHAPS YOU COULD
SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD THAT
MIGHT BE RELEVANT TO THIS
DISCUSSION?
>> I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS,
MOSTLY TO CONFIRM WHAT I
PREPARED IN THE MEMO AND
MENTIONED HERE.
I THINK IT IS FLUID.
WE ARE ALL WAITING TO SEE WHAT
COMES OUT AND GETS APPROVED
INTO LAW.
I THINK THERE MAY BE OPTIONS
FOR A CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION
TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT
MAY COME INTO PLAY, BUT THE
VAST MAJORITY OF THE MONEY WILL
RELY ON EXISTING PROGRAMS,
WHICH WE DO HAVE SOME HISTORY
OF SECURING FUNDING.
TYPICALLY THOSE REQUIRE LOCAL
MATCH OF SOME AMOUNT TO
DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU HAVE A
REAL PROJECT.
I THINK ONE OF THE KEY THINGS
THAT MAYBE WILL COME UP AGAIN
LATER IN MY PAPER, GETTING SORT
OF PROJECTS DEVELOPED ENOUGH
WHERE WE ARE CONFIDENT OF THE
COSTS, CONFIDENT OF THE SCOPE.
THAT HELPS WITH PROJECT
REQUESTS AND GRANT REQUESTS,
BECAUSE WE ARE CLEAR THAT WE
HAVE A CLEARLY DEFINED PROJECT
AND FIRM COST ESTIMATES AND A
PLAN FOR HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO I DO THINK THE PART OF THIS
IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN
WILL THE GRANTING AGENCIES MAKE
THIS MONEY AVAILABLE?
THE BUDGET IS PROPOSED TO BE
AVAILABLE OVER FIVE FISCAL
YEARS.
SOME OF THE MONEY DOES ROLLOVER.
YOU GET INTO THE QUEUE AND THEN
YOU GET TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU
GET TO THE BOARD, MANY YEARS
LATER.
I THINK THERE IS A LOT THAT
NEEDS TO BE DONE UPFRONT TO GET
A PROJECT LIST DEVELOPED THAT
COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING.
OKAY, I THINK IF WE CAN MOVE TO
THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, ANYTHING
ELSE ON THAT?
OKAY, GREAT QUESTION.
THANK YOU, FOR THE WORK YOU
HAVE DONE ON COORDINATING WITH
OUR OFFICE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL
RELATIONS AND WE LOOK FORWARD
TO STANDING AT THE READY TO
HELP IN ANYWAY AND AGAIN,
SENDING OUR APPRECIATION TO THE
DELEGATION AND CONGRESSIONAL
REPRESENTATIVES FOR ALL THEY
ARE TRYING TO DO IN THE SENATE
AND HOUSE, TO MAKE SURE THESE
BILLS ARE ALL PASSED TOGETHER
AND WE GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE
FUNDING.
THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
ISSUE FIVE IS THE PROPOSITION
ONE TRANSIT SERVICE, SO AS A
REMINDER FOR EVERYONE, SEATTLE
VOTERS RENEWED PROPOSITION ONE
IN 2020 ENDED AUTHORIZED TO
0.15% SALES TAX FOR TRANSIT
SERVICE AND TRANSIT RELATED
PROGRAMS.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCREASES
THE TRANSIT SERVICE PURCHASE
FROM 2020 FROM KING COUNTY
METRO BY ABOUT $7.7 MILLION, A
TOTAL OF $28.5 MILLION OF
TRANSIT SERVICE, ROUGHLY
EQUIVALENT TO 150,000 BUS
SERVICE HOURS.
OR 2200 TRIPS.
RIDERSHIP HAS NOT RECOVERED
FROM THE EFFECTS OF THE
PANDEMIC.
THE WSDOT REPORTING SITE SHOWS
STATEWIDE ABOUT 40% BELOW
BASELINE THROUGH THE SUMMER.
IT IS INCREASING AND RECOVERING,
BUT WE ARE NOT AT PRE-PANDEMIC
LEVELS YET.
REVENUE DOES HELP OFFSET THE
COST, SO LOWER RIDERSHIP MEANS
TRANSIT SERVICE PURCHASES COST
MORE PER HOUR.
SDOT IS HOLDING ABOUT $70
MILLION IN RESERVES AGAINST
POTENTIAL ESCALATING COST OR
REVENUE FLUCTUATIONS.
OF OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS
DON'T HOLD.
THE RESERVES ARE ALSO THERE TO
MANAGE HE PROGRAM OVER THE
ENTIRETY OF THE MEASURE.
OUR TRANSIT SERVICE AGREEMENT
WITH METRO ALLOWS US -- WE ARE
REQUIRED, THE MAXIMUM SERVICE
CHANGE WE CAN DO IS 100,000
HOURS.
IF THE MEASURE WERE TO EXPIRE,
THERE IS A NEED TO KEEP FUNDING
AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO MEET
HER THAT OUT OVER THE METRO
SERVICE PLANNING CHANGES, TO
MEET THE COMMITMENTS IN THE
CONTRACT.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET ALSO FUNDS
PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT ACCESS TO
LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS, WORKERS
AND STUDENTS.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND
PROGRAMS TO MEET NEEDS RELATED
TO COVID-19 AND THE CLOSURE OF
THE WEST SEATTLE BRIDGE.
I WILL PAUSE HERE IF YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
THANK YOU, CALVIN FOR
MENTIONING THE RESERVES.
YOUR MEMO IS VERY THOROUGH.
ON PAGE 11.
THE $17 MILLION.
PART OF THAT WAS A HOLDOVER
FROM THE PREVIOUS MEASURE.
ONE OF THE REASONS SDOT GAVE,
THAT I THINK YOU MENTIONED, WAS
TO ALLOW FOR A GRADUAL RAMP
DOWN OF TRANSIT SERVICES.
I JUST FEEL THAT IF WE DO WANT
TO RAMP UP, INVEST THESE
TRANSIT DOLLARS SOONER, THEN I
WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE ROOM
TO DO THAT WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING
THE FUTURE.
LOOKING AT THE DISTRICT AND
TAKING IT, DOING SOMETHING KING
COUNTY WIDE, SO THAT WE GO BACK
TO A REGIONAL APPROACH.
WE HAD STRUCTURED THIS BALLOT
MEASURE TO BE SEVERAL YEARS
INTO THE FUTURE, SO THAT WE
COULD GO TO VOTERS, PERHAPS
EARLY TO KING COUNTY.
SEE IF WE CAN DO IT REGIONALLY
AND IF NOT WE HAVE THE FALLBACK
POSITION.
IN SEATTLE THERE IS SUCH STRONG
SUPPORT.
TO ME, THE RENEWAL RISK IS VERY
MINIMAL AND YET RIGHT NOW WE
HAVE A DESIRE -- A LOT ARE
WRITING US TO DO MORE WITH
TRANSIT.
LET'S EXPAND IN TERMS OF
FREQUENCY AND REACH OF THE BUS
SYSTEM.
WE HAVE LIGHT RAIL STATIONS
OPENING AND WE HAVE EMAILS FROM
OUR OFFICE.
FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE
FREQUENCY, GETTING TO THE LIGHT
RAIL STATIONS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE MAY
WANT TO DO DURING THIS PROCESS
IS TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THE
RESERVES, HOW MUCH IS NEEDED
AND WOULDN'T IT BE NICE TO
DEPLOY MORE TRANSIT DOLLARS
NOW?
>> THE ONE THOUGHT I WOULD PUT
TO YOU, IS JUST REMEMBER,
INCREASING TRANSIT SERVICE NOW,
THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE
WOULD WANT TO KEEP THOSE
SERVICES INTO THE FUTURE, AS
WELL.
SO THINKING ABOUT ADDING, USING
THE RESERVES FOR A ONE TIME,
PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT, IN
TERMS OF WHAT THE INCREASED
COST IS FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL
YEARS.
WE WOULD NOT WANT TO RAMP UP
THE SERVICE IN ONE YEAR AND
THEN TAKE IT BACK.
SO TO KIND OF THINK THROUGH THE
OVERTIME IMPACT OF ADDING
SERVICE.
>> BUT AS I RECALL, YOU HAD A
NICE CHART.
THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN PART OF
THE QUESTION AND ANSWER
PROCESS, ASKING THE AGENCY TO
PROVIDE THE SPEND PLAN NOT JUST
FOR 2022, BUT THE ENTIRE LENGTH
AND THEY WERE PILING MONEY INTO
THE RESERVES EVERY YEAR.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE COULD BE A
WAY OF ADDING TRANSIT SERVICE
FROM THE RESERVES IN A WAY THAT
IS SUSTAINABLE.
THIS ISSUE OF RAMP DOWN RISK IN
THE FINAL YEAR I THINK IS LESS
OF AN ISSUE.
WE EITHER WIN KING COUNTY RIDE
OR WIN IN SEATTLE AND YOU KNOW,
I WOULD HATE TO HOLD BACK ON
SERVICENOW AND THERE IS SUCH
DEMAND.
HAVING THE INTENSE FREQUENCY OF
BUSES.
TO GET PEOPLE TO CONSIDER
GETTING OUT OF THEIR CARS AND
THE RELIABILITY OF BUSES.
JUST SOME THOUGHTS.
THANKS.
>> IT WAS A SUSTAINABILITY
ISSUE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS
PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
THANK YOU.
>> OKAY, CALVIN, I AM NOT
SEEING ADDITIONAL HANDS ON THIS
ONE.
EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL PRESIDENT,
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU, SORRY FOR RAISING
MY HAND SO LATE.
IN RESPONSE TO YOUR FLAG,
CALVIN, WHICH IS ALWAYS A GOOD
ONE, YOU DON'T WANT TO
INADVERTENTLY CREATE FISCAL
CLIFFS WHERE THEY DON'T NEED TO
BE, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT YOU
ARE FLAGGING.
IS THERE SORT OF AN IN BETWEEN
BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, STATUS QUO
AND WHAT COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN
IS PROPOSING?
IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE A WAY
TO MAKE AN INCREASE IN TRANSIT
SERVICE IN 2022 THAT IS MORE
SCALABLE?
SO I AM THINKING, FOR EXAMPLE,
IN OUR CONVERSATION AROUND THE
VEHICLE LICENSING FEE, WHERE WE
LOOKED AT HOW WE CAN TARGET
SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS TOWARDS
ESSENTIAL WORKERS, FOR EXAMPLE.
PROVIDING THEM WITH REDUCED
FARES OR FREE FARES.
I AM THINKING ABOUT WHETHER
THERE IS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO
THAT KIND OF MODEL THAT WOULD
ALLOW US TO HAVE AN INCREASE OF
TRANSIT SERVICE IN 2022.
THAT IS SCALABLE IN NATURE SO
AS TO AVOID THE FISCAL CLIFF
DANGER THAT YOU ARE IDENTIFYING.
>> I THINK IT WILL TAKE MORE
WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO DIG
IN TO THE RESERVES, THE PLAN
RESERVES, AND SORT OF WORK OUT
WHAT OPTIONS MIGHT BE AND WHAT
IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
IT REALLY DOES COME DOWN TO
FUNDING.
WE HAVE AN EXPECTED REVENUE
STREAM TIED TO SALES TAX AND I
THINK -- I DON'T KNOW THAT
THERE IS NOT MUCH ELSE WE CAN
DO.
ASIDE FROM WHAT THE REVENUE
POLICY MAY BE, UNLESS WE ARE
WILLING TO CONSIDER OTHER
REVENUE SOURCES.
>> GOT IT, THANK YOU.
>> SEEING NO MORE QUESTIONS,
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO, ISSUE NUMBER SIX IS THE
STREETCAR AND THE EXISTING
STREETCAR SYSTEM.
THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
I THINK THEY INFORM EACH OTHER.
IT INCLUDES PROJECT RELEVANT ON
THE CONNECTOR.
THIS WOULD CONNECT THE EXISTING
SOUTHLAKE CAR TO DOWNTOWN
SEATTLE.
PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, COUNCIL
AUTHORIZED $9 MILLION TO
ASSESS THE PROJECT AND PROBLEMS
WITH THE VEHICLE DESIGN.
WITH THE PANDEMIC, COUNCIL
DIRECTED THOSE TO OTHER
PRIORITIES FOR THIS PROJECT
WAS PUT ON HIATUS.
THE PROPOSED 2.4 MILLION WOULD
ALLOW SDOT TO ASSESS HOW IT
PROCEEDS WITH THE PROJECT
INCLUDING ELIGIBILITY FOR
FEDERAL GRANTS AND POTENTIAL
CONFLICTS WITH THE DOWNTOWN
TUNNEL ALIGNMENT FOR THE WEST
SEATTLE EXTENSION.
THE PROPOSED FUNDING IS GENERAL
FUND USING TAX REVENUE.
SO AS AN OPTION, COUNCIL MAY
NOW WANT TO RESTART THE
PROJECT AND THEN REPURPOSE THE
FUNDING.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET ALSO
INCLUDES $5.3 MILLION TO
OPERATE EXISTING FIRST HILL AND
SOUTH UNION STREETCARS AND THIS
IS THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE
TOTAL COST OF OPERATIONS WHICH
WILL BE ABOUT $14 MILLION IN
2022.
IT DOES RELY ON FARES AND
CONTRIBUTIONS TO FUND
OPERATIONS.
EXTERNAL CONTRIBUTIONS WILL
EXPIRE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS,
SO THE CONTRIBUTIONS ARE
EXPECTED TO INCREASE OVER TIME
TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE.
AS WITH OTHER FUNDS OF TRANSIT,
RIDERSHIP IS RECOVERING, BUT
THE ULTIMATE PACE IS UNKNOWN.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET ASSUMES THE
STREETCAR WILL RAISE $1.6
MILLION FARE REVENUE IN 2022,
WHICH IS CLOSE TO THE $1.8
MILLION COLLECTED BEFORE THE
PANDEMIC IN 2019.
IF RIDERSHIP RECOVERS SLOWER
THAN ANTICIPATED, STREETCAR
SERVICE MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL
PUBLIC SUBSIDY OR REDUCTIONS IN
SERVICE.
I WILL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> COUNCILMEMBERS, ANY
QUESTIONS?
OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN,
GO AHEAD.
>> IN TERMS OF $2.4 MILLION, I
WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PART OF OUR
BUDGET AND THERE WAS THE
CENTRAL CITY CONNECTOR WITH ITS
OWN PAGE IN THE BUDGET.
IF THERE WERE A STUDY AND THERE
WAS THE OPTION TO GO FORWARD, I
MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF SUNK
COSTS ALREADY IN THIS PROJECT.
THEN I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE
ABOUT $165 MILLION OR MORE THAT
WOULD HAVE TO BE SPENT AND THAT
IS FOR THE CAPITAL ELEMENT, NOT
THE OPERATING SUBSIDY.
SO YOU KNOW, I THINK I HAVE BEEN
CONSISTENT WITH MY CONCERNS
ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT
BEING REDUNDANT WITH OTHER
MODES OF TRANSPORTATION ALONG
THAT CORRIDOR WITH THE LIGHT
RAIL AND BUSES AND OTHER
OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
AS I RECALL, THIS IS NOT A MOVE
SEATTLE LEVY PROJECT.
THERE ARE LOTS OF UNFULFILLED
PROMISES WITH MOVE SEATTLE.
THE BRIDGE UPGRADES I
MENTIONED, FOR EXAMPLE.
I AM CONCERNED THAT THIS
PROJECT -- WELL, I WILL STOP
THERE.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> I WANT TO ADD FOR
CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, THE
CIP ENTRY FOR THIS PROJECT
LISTS $92 MILLION IN UNSECURED
FUNDING.
IT SAYS SDOT WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
AND CITY COUNCIL TO DETERMINE
THE FUTURE OF THE PROJECT.
SEPARATELY, THE CIP ENTRY NOTES
$50 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDING
FROM 2023 AS SECURED.
I HAD PUT IN A QUESTION TO SDOT
ABOUT FEDERAL FUNDING IN THE
BUDGET OFFICE REPLY ACKNOWLEDGES
THAT THE GRANT WAS NEVER
AWARDED.
SDOT HOLDS NO GRANT FUNDS
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS GRANT.
THE $50 MILLION LAPSED AT THE
END OF THE FISCAL YEAR,
SEPTEMBER 30, 2021.
SO THERE IS NOT $50 MILLION IN
FEDERAL FUNDING SECURED AND I
KNOW THE DIRECTOR FEELS
CONFIDENT IN HIS PLANNED
EFFORTS TO SECURE FEDERAL
FUNDING.
I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
TO KNOW WHERE THE MATCH FROM
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STANDS
AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE THAT HAS
REALLY BEEN A DRIVER OF SOME OF
OUR DECISIONS IN THE PAST.
THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE
THE MONEY IN HAND, BUT THE
FUNDS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
SO I THINK IT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT,
WHEN WE ARE CONSIDERING
INVESTING MORE DOLLARS IN
STUDYING THIS OPTION.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN THAT THAT CORRIDOR IS
WELL SERVED BY TRANSIT.
AND THE FUNDING SOURCE, TAXES,
WOULD BE A GREAT FUNDING SOURCE
FOR INVESTING MORE DEEPLY IN
SOME OF OUR VISION ZERO
PROJECTS.
I WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTED.
IN LOOKING AT MORE PRESSING
NEEDS FOR THOSE FUNDS.
THANKS.
>> I DID HAVE A SIMILAR
QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALEZ UP
NEXT.
CALVIN, COMMENTS ON WHERE THE
CITY IS ACTIVELY SEEKING NEW
FUNDS FOR FEDERAL OPPORTUNITIES
OR THIS AND MAYBE PILING ON TO
WHAT COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
NOTED.
DOES THAT MEAN THE TOTAL AMOUNT
OF LAPSED SPENDING IS ACTUALLY
$57.3 MILLION THAT WE HAVE NOT
BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT HAS
BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE CITY FROM
OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS?
>> I KNOW THERE IS NO
OUTSTANDING GRANT MONEY AS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
MENTIONED.
IT HAS LAPSED.
THERE WAS A GRANT FOR VEHICLE
PROCUREMENT AND THAT WAS FUNDING
THAT LED TO SOME OF THE
REEVALUATING OF THE PROJECT TWO
YEARS AGO.
THAT GRANT HAS LAPSED.
WE DID NOT SPEND IT.
CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO
OUTSTANDING GRANTS.
THE PROJECT STILL MAINTAINS ITS
ELIGIBILITY FOR FUTURE GRANTS
PROGRAMS, SO IT IS STILL BEING
REPORTED AND HAS ACTIVE GRANTS
APPLICATION IN, BUT THERE ARE
NO CURRENT AWARDS.
>> THERE IS NO CURRENT AWARD
AND THEN JUST A FOLLOW-UP, IS
THERE ACTIVE SEEKING OF
ADDITIONAL FEDERAL DOLLARS
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THAT WE
KNOW OF?
>> I THINK BEYOND MAINTAINING
THE ELIGIBILITY IN THE SMALL
STARTS PROGRAM, THAT IS THE
ONLY EFFORT I AM AWARE OF.
TO THE EXTENT THAT THE NEW
INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, IF IT
PASSES AND PROVIDES MORE MONEY
TO THAT PROGRAM, THEN
PRESUMABLY THERE WOULD BE MORE
FEDERAL MONEY AVAILABLE THROUGH
THAT EXISTING PROGRAM, BUT I AM
NOT AVAILABLE -- I AM NOT AWARE
OF ANY OTHER GRANT SEARCH
ACTIVITY.
>> THANKS.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
>> I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED
IN HEARING A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING
THAT SDOT IS ACTIVELY PURSUING
PARTICULAR GRANTS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO
GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR
PERSPECTIVE OF OPPORTUNITY IN
THAT AREA, FOR GRANTS TO
CONTINUE TO ADVANCE THE VISION
RELATED TO THE STREETCAR
CONNECTOR AND SO I HOPE,
CALVIN, THAT YOU ARE ABLE,
AFTER TODAY'S MEETING, TO GO
AND TALK TO SDOT ABOUT WHAT
THEY ARE THINKING MIGHT BE
AVAILABLE.
SO THAT WE HAVE A BETTER SENSE
AND CONTEXT FOR WHAT THE REALM
OF POSSIBILITY MIGHT BE TO
ADDRESS THAT GAP IN THE
EXISTING PROJECT.
I DO WANT TO ADDRESS, REALLY
QUICKLY, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS
MADE BY MY COLLEAGUES.
COUNCILMEMBERS PEDERSEN AND
HERBOLD AS IT RELATES TO
REDUNDANCY OR AREAS ALREADY
WELL SERVED BY TRANSIT.
I WANT TO REMIND US THAT
LITERATURE IN THE AREA OF
TRANSPORTATION, DATING BACK TO
THE EARLY 80s, REPEATEDLY TELLS
US THAT REDUNDANCY SHOULD BE A
FEATURE OF ALL TRANSIT SYSTEMS.
ESPECIALLY IN MID TO LARGE
CITIES, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT
MAKES THE NETWORK AND SYSTEM
FUNCTION REALLY WELL.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
ARE FOCUSED ON GOOD PRACTICES
AND ON THE EXPERT LITERATURE
THAT REALLY DOES TALK ABOUT HOW
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT IT IS FOR
TRANSIT SYSTEMS TO HAVE
REDUNDANCY, BECAUSE IF ONE PART
OF THE SYSTEM GOES OUT DURING
AN EMERGENCY OR FOR WHATEVER
OTHER REASON, THAT CREATES REAL
PRESSURE ON PEOPLE BEING ABLE
TO ACCESS SERVICE.
>>> REDUNDANCY IS A FEATURE NOT
A BUG IN TRANSIT SYSTEMS.
I WANTED TO LIFT THAT UP.
>> AS WE CONTINUE TO DEBATE.
>> AS WE CONTINUE TO DEBATE
THESE LIMITED RESOURCES AND
TRANSIT SYSTEM.
>> APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL
PRESIDENT.
COUNCILMEMBER PEDERSEN,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR MOSQUEDA.
A COUPLE POINTS ON THIS.
RIGHT NOW THERE IS A LIGHT RAIL
AND A BUS, AS TRANSIT OPTIONS.
I THINK THERE IS SOME
REDUNDANCY, POSITIVE REDUNDANCY
THERE NOW.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER
GONZALEZ, TO HAVE THAT, I AM
JUST CONCERNED ABOUT ADDITIONAL
COST WITH THE OTHER NEEDS THAT
WE HAVE.
HAVING A THIRD ITEM, SUCH A
HIGH COST.
AND CALVIN SAID YOU DO CHECK IN
ABOUT WHAT THE CHANCES ARE,
WITH FEDERAL FUNDING, FOR THIS,
GOING FORWARD, IT IS NOT SECURE
AT THIS POINT.
ASKING WHAT THE STATUS IS, I
UNDERSTAND THE OFFICE OF
INSPECTOR GENERAL, AT THE U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
BUT THE PROJECT IS STILL UNDER
ACTIVE INVESTIGATION BY U.S.
D.O.T.
I DO NOT KNOW HOW THAT PLAYS
INTO OUR ABILITY TO GET FEDERAL
FUNDING.
IF THEY ARE UNDER FEDERAL
INVESTIGATION FOR THE PROJECT.
SO, THAT IS JUST SOMETHING TO
THROW IN THE MIX, TO SEE IF IT
WOULD BE ELIGIBLE JUST AT THIS
TIME, FOR FUNDING.
>> I WILL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP
WITH STARTING CBO WITH THE
CURRENT FEDERAL FUNDING.
I THINK THE CURRENT INTENTION
WITH THIS 3.4 MILLION WAS TO
RETHINK THE STRATEGY IN GENERAL.
THE PROJECT HAS NOT HAD
SIGNIFICANT WORK ON THE CITY
SIDE FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.
I THINK THAT IT IS, I AM NOT
SURE HOW MUCH OF A RESPONSE IT
IS GOING, HOW MUCH APPROVED
RESPONSE IT WILL GO RIGHT NOW.
>> THANK YOU.
PLEASE GO AHEAD PRESIDENT.
>> JUST QUICKLY, I THINK THE
POLICY CHOICE RELATED TO THE
CENTER CITY STREETCAR IS
FIELDED BY CONCERNS RELATED TO
WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN
EFFECTIVELY GET THOSE FEDERAL
GRANTS THAT IS ONE POLICY
CHOICE, BUT I THINK THE, HOPING
TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT
BETTER FROM US.FOR
UNDERSTANDING.
IT MIGHT BE THAT THEY SAY THAT
WE DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD
PROSPECTS.
BUT I THINK I HAVE NOT HEARD
THAT CLEARLY OR STATED THAT
UNEQUIVOCALLY.
IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN THAT
IS RELEVANT INFORMATION FOR US,
AS WE, AS WE CONTINUE TO
IDENTIFY WAYS TO MOVE THROUGH
FRANKLY, THE PICKLE WE ARE IN
AS IT RELATES TO THE CENTER
CITY STREETCAR CONNECTOR
PROJECT.
[ LAUGHTER ] ONE WAY OR
ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, IS THIS,
DID WE SORT OF MISSED OUR
OPPORTUNITY HERE?
NOW WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE
WE ARE ONCE AGAIN DELIVERING ON
A SET OF BROKEN PROMISES TO
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO
EXPECTED THAT WE WOULD HAVE A
CONNECTED SYSTEM OF STREETCARS
FROM THIS CENTER CITY, ALL THE
WAY TO CHINATOWN INTERNATIONAL
DISTRICT.
WE HAVE TO SORT OF IDENTIFY
WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS GOING TO
BE ANOTHER BROKEN PROMISE OR
WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO COME
TOGETHER WITH A CLEAR PLAN ON
HOW WE ARE GOING TO SECURE THE
$50 MILLION GAP THAT HAS BEEN
IDENTIFIED THROUGH YOUR WORK IN
THE DEPARTMENT, AND THE
DEPARTMENTS WORK.
THAT IS ONE SET OF QUESTIONS.
THE OTHER SET OF QUESTIONS IS
SORT OF THE VISION AROUND WHAT
SORT OF TRANSIT NETWORK WE WANT
TO CREATE.
AND I GET REALLY CONCERNED WHEN
WE CITE TO EXISTING BUS AND
FUTURE LIGHT RAIL, THE ONLY
AMOUNT OF REDUNDANCY WE SHOULD
HAVE IS FUTURE LIGHT RAIL.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT WE
WANT OUR MULTI-MOBILE TRANSIT
AT WORK TO BE BY INCLUDING
THINGS LIKE STREETCARS, OR BIKE
LANES, OR YOU KNOW, GOOD, SAFE
SIDEWALKS.
THESE ARE ALL REPORT IMPORTANT
REDUNDANCIES FOR US TO HAVE.
I AGREE THAT THIS AREA
GENERALLY HAS ACCESS TO GOOD
TRANSIT SERVICES, AGAIN, I
DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE SORT
OF REACHED REDUNDANCY SATURATION
AS HAS BEEN ASSERTED IN OUR
CONVERSATION TODAY.
SO I SEE THERE IS A DISTINCTION
BETWEEN, CAN WE FUND THESE
PROJECTS?
AND THE POLICY QUESTION AROUND
WHAT KIND OF TRANSIT NETWORK
ARE WE LOOKING TO CREATE FOR
THIS PART OF THE CITY THAT WILL
SERVE WORKERS, VISITORS, AND
OTHERS IN THIS AREA WHO ARE
TAKING PUBLIC TRANSIT? WHICH IS
GOOD FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE IT
REDUCES CONGESTION DOWNTOWN.
>> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
I WILL JUST UNDERSCORE ONE
QUESTION I ASKED EARLIER
BECAUSE IT RELATES TO WHAT THE
PRESIDENT JUST STATED AGAIN AND
THEN COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
CLOSES THIS ONE AND WE WILL GET
TO THE LAST ITEM, THREE ITEMS
FOR IDENTIFICATION HERE.
CALVIN, TO THAT POINT, COUNCIL
PRESIDENT GONZALEZ JUST MADE
AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE EXPIRATION OF THE $7.3
MILLION FOR THE SMALL STARTS
GRANT, IF THAT HAS EXPIRED AND
WE ALSO LET THE 50 MILLION,
THAT WE ORIGINALLY RECEIVED,
EXPIRE, HAVE WE LOST OR ARE WE
IN A WORSE POSITION TO GET
FEDERAL GRANTS IN THE FUTURE?
POLITICALLY I GUESS YES.
BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE CONTINUE TO
PUT TIME AND ENERGY AND
POLITICAL CAPITAL INTO HELPING
THE CITY RECEIVE FEDERAL
FUNDING AND THEN HAVE IT NOT BE
PUT TO USE, I ASSUME, LIKE
STATE LEGISLATIVE MEMBERS, IT
IS HARDER FOR THEM TO CONTINUE
TO FIND FUNDING FOR SPECIFIC
PROJECTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY ARE
WE STILL ELIGIBLE FOR ALL THE
OTHER GRANTS AND IS THE LOSS OF
$50 MILLION AND THE UNUSED,
EXPIRED $7.3 MILLION CALLED OUT
IN YOUR MEMO HERE, ARE WE STILL
ABLE TO SECURE FEDERAL GRANTS
FOR THE PROJECT IN THE FUTURE?
THAT IS A QUICK UNDERSCORING OF
THE BIG QUESTION THERE.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER
NOW, THAT IS FINE TOO.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE THOUGHTS I
WANT TO ADD.
S.-- S.D.O.T., WITH THE
EFFICIENCY ARGUMENT OF
CONNECTING THE EXISTING TREE
CAR LINES, THEY THINK THE
PROJECT IS SCORE HIGH, VERY
WELL FOR THE SMALL START
CRITERIA.
I HAVE NO REASON TO ARGUE THAT.
I THINK COMPARED TO OTHER
PUBLIC TRANSIT PROJECTS
PROPOSED AROUND THE COUNTRY,
THAT WE PROBABLY SCORE VERY
WELL IN TERMS OF THE LAND USES
WHERE IT WOULD SUPPORT AND
RIDERSHIP WOULD GENERATE.
BUT TRANSIT PROJECTS, ONE OF
THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT
THE STREETCAR IS WE HAVE A
LEGACY OF THE SOUTH LAKE UNION
STREETCAR, MOSTLY AN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT TOOL FOR SOUTH LAKE
UNION.
AND THE FIRST RECORD WHICH WAS,
A WAY TO CONNECT FIRST HILL TO
THE -- WHEN THE TRANSIT STATION
WAS ELIMINATED FROM THE SYSTEM.
SO WE HAD THESE TWO LEGACY
PROJECTS THAT DID NOT REALLY, I
DO NOT THINK REALLY FULLY
INTERNALIZED THE ONGOING COST
THAT TRANSIT SUBSIDY IS REQUIRED
TO RUN TRANSIT.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW
IN AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL PARTS,
COMMERCIAL PARKING TAX REVENUE
THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TO
OPERATE THE SYSTEMS.
SO I THINK THE SYSTEM IS A GOOD
, SCORES WELL IN TERMS OF
COMPARABLE FTA GRANTS THAT ARE
OUT THERE.
I THINK IT IS AS MUCH A
QUESTION OF WHETHER WE HAVE, DO
WE HAVE A FINANCIAL PLAN THAT
MAKES SENSE TO US TO SUPPORT
THAT OR NOT?
I THINK THAT IS THE RUB HERE.
YOU KNOW, POLITICALLY I THINK
IF WE HAVE NOT TAKEN ACTION ON
THE SMALL STARTS GRANT, THAT
MAYBE IS NOT A GREAT MESSAGE
FOR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES OR
SOME OF OUR OTHER DELEGATION
PARTNERS, BUT IN TERMS OF THE
SMALL STARTS GRANT ITSELF, I
THINK WE ARE STILL IN THE QUEUE
AND IT IS MORE OF A DELAY AND
NOT NECESSARILY WE HAVE
FOREGONE THE OPPORTUNITY.
>> GRAY.
I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK BEFORE
WE MOVE ON, PRESIDENT DID YOU
HAVE A FOLLOW-UP?
I SEE YOUR HAND IS STILL A. UP.
>> NO.
I FORGOT TO LOWER MY HAND.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHY WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS $50
MILLION IN MY I AM TALKING
ABOUT $50 MILLION.
I HEARD REFERENCE TO $50
MILLION GAP, IT IS NOT A GAP,
IT IS A $140 MILLION GAP.
FOR ME THE IMPORTANCE OF THE
$50 MILLION OF THE FEDERAL
FUNDING IN THE DISCUSSION HAS
ALWAYS BEEN FOR MANY, MANY
YEARS THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO
PURSUE THIS PROJECT AND FILL
THE GAP BETWEEN THE FULL COST
OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAD
THIS $50 MILLION.
AND SO IN MY QUESTIONING
WHETHER WE HAVE THE $50 MILLION
IS TO SUGGEST THE NARRATIVE
THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR YEARS,
THAT WE HAVE SECURED FEDERAL
FUNDING.
SO WE SHOULD LOOK AT FILLING
THE REST OF THE GAP BECAUSE WE
HAVE SUCH A SUBSTANTIAL MATCH.
I AM QUESTIONING THAT NOW. IT
IS NOT TO SUGGEST WE ONLY HAVE
A $50 MILLION GAP, WE HAVE A
$140 MILLION GAP, JUST NONE OF
THE COSTS HAVE GONE UP SINCE
THE LAST TIME WE HAD THE
CONVERSATION TWO YEARS AGO.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> OKAY.
>> I WAS HOLDING BACK ON MAKING
A JOKE ABOUT REDUNDANCIES,
GIVEN YOUR CONVERSATION.
[ LAUGHTER ] TOO FUNNY.
PLEASE GO AHEAD, CALVIN.
>> OKAY.
NEXT SLI, PLEASE.
ISSUE NUMBER SEVEN IS THE
INTEGRATED PLANNING PROPOSAL.
S.D.O.T.
IS PLANNING TO DO A MAJOR
OVERHAUL OF PLANNING,
INTEGRATING THE PLANS INTO ONE
COMMON FRAMEWORK AND DOCUMENT.
THEY PROPOSE TO DO PUBLIC
OUTREACH, CONCURRENT WITH OPC D
PLAN UPDATE AND ROLL THOSE
TOGETHER.
THE TOTAL COST OF THE TOTAL OF
THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN UPDATE
IS EXPECTED TO BE $4.5 MILLION-
$5 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FEW
YEARS.
IT AS ABOUT $3 MILLION IN 2022
AND THEY HAVE ABOUT $500,000 OF
PLANNING RESOURCES AVAILABLE.
THIS TYPE OF WORK WOULD ALSO
HELP INFORM NEW LEVY PROPOSAL
POTENTIALLY FOR RENEWING
SEATTLE.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE RENEWAL
PLANNING WOULD BE AN UPGRADE
OPPORTUNITY TO REASSESS ALL OF
OUR TRANSPORTATION REVENUES AND
TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY
SPENDING.
ANY QUESTIONS?
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?
I AM NOT SEEING ANY QUESTIONS.
LET ME ASK ONE QUICK QUESTION
HERE THAN.
>> OKAY.
>> LET ME PAUSE TO SEE IF HANDS
GO UP.
OKAY.
IS THE 3 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR
THE PLANNING, CAN YOU TELL ME
WHAT THE BUDGET IS, AND SIMILAR
TO THE CONVERSATIONS OF
AUTHENTIC COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT,
IS THERE ANY WAY TO GAUGE IF
THIS IS SUFFICIENT FOR THE
COMMUNITY OUTREACH?
>> I WILL FOLLOW-UP WITH MY
COMPATRIOT ON THE OPC SIDE.
THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT
WILL BE A MULTIYEAR PROCESS.
SO I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY
RECOGNIZE A BIG BODY OF WORK
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE
EXECUTIVE HAS A FIRM DETAILED
WORK PLAN.
THIS COULD BE SOMETHING SOME
DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL COULD
HELP ESTABLISH WHAT YOU WANT
TO SEE.
AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.
>> OKAY, GREAT, CALVIN, THANK
YOU FOR WALKING US THROUGH
THIS.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE SLI?
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S KEEP GOING.
>> NEXT SLI, PLEASE.
ISSUE 8 IS TO HIGHLIGHT THE
S.D.O.T.
EQUITIES IN THE PROPOSAL
BUDGET, SPECIFIC PROPOSALS TO
DIRECTLY UNDERSCORED
COMMUNITIES.
THERE IS FUNDING FOR THE EIGHTH
AVENUE PARK AS PART OF THE
ACTION PLAN.
THERE IS FUNDING FOR THE
PEDESTRIAN AND PUBLIC SPACE
IMPROVEMENT IN FIVE SPECIFIC
TARGETED NEIGHBORHOODS.
PART OF THE S.D.O.T.
RESET PROGRAM.
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DETECTIVE
COOKIE CHESS PARK AND THE
EQUITY WORKGROUP.
>> WONDERFUL.
>> OKAY.
NEXT.
>> GREAT.
>> NEXT SLI, PATTY.
I THINK THIS SHOULD BE SLI 9.
IT SAYS SLI 8 BUT IT SHOULD BE
THE NINTH ISSUE.
COVID RESPONSE PROGRAMS.
TO HELP ACCOMMODATE SOCIAL
DISTANCING AND PUBLIC SPACE IN
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, S.D.O.T.
HAS BEEN ROLLING OUT A NUMBER
OF PROGRAMS IN RESPONSE TO THE
PANDEMIC THE PAST TWO YEARS.
THE SAFE START CAFE STREET
PROGRAM ALLOWED BUSINESSES TO
MAKE STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS IN
THE ROADWAY, MAKING SPACE FOR
FOOD SERVICE AND BETTING.
WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS
IMPROVEMENT PERMANENT IN EARLY
2022 OVER IMPROVEMENT BUT THE
BUDGET DOES NOT INCLUDE BUDGET
CHANGES WITH THAT.
SO PRESUMABLY THOSE PROPOSALS
WOULD COME TOGETHER WITH A
PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL.
THE STAY HEALTHY STREETS
PROGRAM BUILT ON THE
NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAYS PROGRAM
TO ENCOURAGE NONMOTORIZED USE
OF STREETS, S.D.O.T.
IS INCLUDING SOME PERMANENT
IMPROVEMENTS IN GREENWOOD,
BEACON HILL AND FELL STREET
LOCATIONS.
MAKING LET THE EXISTING
LOCATIONS PERMANENT IN 2022 BUT
NOT LETTING SPACE FOR
ADDITIONAL PERMITS FOR STREETS.
AND THE ADDITIONAL KEEP SEATTLE
MOVING PROGRAM, KEEPING STREETS
CLOSED NEAR PARKS, INCLUDING
GREENLIGHT WAY, LAKE WASHINGTON
BOULEVARD, ALKI POINTE AND
GOLDEN GARDENS, RECENTLY
GREENLIGHT WAY WAS REOPENED TO
TRAFFIC WITH A TWO-WAY SHARED
PATH.
BUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET DOES
NOT INCLUDE ANY FUNDING FOR
OTHER PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT IN
2022.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE LAKE WASHINGTON
BOULEVARD IS VISIONED AS A
SUMMER PROGRAM.
I BELIEVE THE ALKI POINTS
TEMPORARY CLOSURES ARE STILL IN
PLACE AND THE GOLDEN GARDENS
CLOSURE IS NO LONGER BEING USED.
ANY QUESTIONS?
>> NOT SEEING QUESTIONS ON THIS
ONE.
>> OKAY.
NEXT SLI, PLEASE.
SO THERE ARE TWO PIECES OF
BUDGET LEGISLATION TRANSMITTED
WITH THE BUDGET.
THE FIRST IS THE CAR SHARE
ORDINANCE.
THIS WOULD CHANGE THE PERMIT FEE
STRUCTURE IN PLACE FOR FREE-
FLOATING CAR SHARE.
IT WOULD MOVE FROM A PARKING
BASE COST MODEL TO A PER TRIP
MODEL.
THIS WOULD REDUCE PERMIT FEES
BY ABOUT $150,000, UNDER THE
CURRENT PARKING BASE MODEL THE
PROGRAM GENERATES ABOUT $340,000
IN THE USE FEES.
THERE IS ALSO ADMINISTRATOR FEE
THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO BE
COLLECTED UNDER ADMINISTRATION.
THIS WOULD MOVE TO A PER TRIP
FEE STRUCTURE OF $.50 PER TRIP
IN A VEHICLE WITH INTERNAL
COMBUSTION MOTOR.
AND $.25 PER TRIP FOR ELECTRIC
VEHICLES.
THE LEGISLATION WILL ALSO
AUTHORIZE S.D.O.T.
TO DETERMINE THE EQUITABLE
GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE FOR FREE-
FLOATING CAR SHARE SERVICES.
CURRENTLY IN THE CODE WE
REQUIRE THAT CAR SHARE COMPANIES
OFFER SERVICE ACROSS THE ENTIRE
CITY WITHIN TWO YEARS OF
BEGINNING OPERATIONS.
SO THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION
WOULD GIVE S.D.O.T.
DISCRETION TO CONSIDER
FEASIBILITY, FLEET SIZE,
SPECIFIC AREAS WITH IDENTIFIED
NEEDS, THE BREATH OF SERVICE
AND THE STRATEGY TO USE TO REACH
LOW-INCOME CUSTOMERS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN
2019 THE THREE COMPANIES THAT
WERE OFFERING THESE SERVICES IN
SEATTLE, CEASED LOCAL
OPERATIONS AND THERE IS
CURRENTLY ONE NEW PROVIDER THAT
IS OPERATING A FLEET OF 370
VEHICLES IN SEATTLE.
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS
LEGISLATION?
>> CAN YOU REMIND ME AGAIN WHY
THE THREE COMPANIES CEASED
OPERATION HERE?
>> THIS IS JUST CONJECTURE ON
MY PART BUT I THINK COMPETITION
FROM RIDE-SHARE, RIGHT HAILING
SERVICES, OTHER MICRO-MOBILITY
OPTIONS AND POTENTIALLY THE
REQUIREMENT TO EXPAND YOUR
SERVICE WITHIN TWO YEARS TO
COVER THE ENTIRE CITY, MAY HAVE
PLAYED A ROLE IN THEIR BUSINESS
DECISIONS.
>> THANKS CALVIN.
OKAY.
I AM NOT SEEING, EXCUSE ME,
PRESIDENT, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> I MAY HAVE MISSED YOU SAYING
THIS BUT WHO IS THE REMAINING
CARE SHARE PROVIDER?
>> THE NEW COMPANY IS CALLED
GIG.
WE PREVIOUSLY HAD CAR TO GO,
REACH GO AND LINE POD.
>> RIGHT.
OKAY.
AND SO THE ORDINANCE WE ARE
BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER I AM
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
CHANGE HERE IS FORWARD, IF ANY.
YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE
PROGRAMMATIC EFFECTS, OF THE
COUNCIL'S ADOPTION OF THE
PROPOSED BUDGET LEGISLATION?
>> SO THE, I THINK IT REALLY
DOES TWO THINGS.
IT REDUCES THE COST TO THE
PERMIT HOLDER OF DOING
BUSINESS, CONTINUING BUSINESS
IN SEATTLE.
IT REDUCES THE FEE BY $150,000.
THE SECOND THING IT DOES IS
GIVES SOME DISCRETION TO
S.D.O.T., TO WORK WITH THE
PERMITTEE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
THE APPROPRIATE COVERAGE
SERVICE REQUIREMENTS SHOULD BE,
WITHOUT THIS CHANGE THE CODE
WOULD REQUIRE THAT A COMPANY
THAT HAS BEEN OPERATING FOR TWO
YEARS HAS TO DEMONSTRATE
SERVICE IS AVAILABLE FOR THE
ENTIRE CITY.
BEYOND THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GET
MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE
DEPARTMENT TO UNDERSTAND WHERE
THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN.
BUT THAT WAS THE GENESIS OF THE
PROPOSED LEGISLATION.
>> OKAY.
SO, SO THAN ADOPTING THE
LEGISLATION WOULD LIFT THE
REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE MORE
EQUITABLE GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE
OF CAR SHARE SERVICES?
>> IT WOULD GIVE S.D.O.T.
THE DISCRETION TO CONSIDER A
NUMBER OF FACTORS IN DETERMINING
WHETHER THE SERVICE PROVIDER
WAS EQUITABLY DELIVERED, AS
OPPOSED TO YOU MUST SERVE THE
ENTIRE CITY.
>> RIGHT.
I JUST WANT TO FOR CLARITY
PURPOSES, THE CURRENT
REQUIREMENT IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE
GEOGRAPHIC EQUITY IN THESE
PROGRAMS IN EXCHANGE FOR BEING
ABLE TO DO BUSINESS HERE, IN
THIS MODEL.
RIGHT?
THAT IS THE STATUS QUO.
IN THIS ORDINANCE WOULD GIVE
S.D.O.T.
THE DISCRETION TO DEVIATE FROM
THAT AND NOT REQUIRE EQUITABLE
GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE, PRESUMABLY
BECAUSE IT IS THE INTENT.
>> WE JUST LOST THE COUNCIL
COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
[ LAUGHTER ] BUT I THINK YOU
GET HER POINT, CALVIN.
I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION.
I AM HAPPY TO PITCH IN.
>> DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES?
>> THIS IS THE PIECE I'M
STRUGGLING WITH.
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF
WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT REASONS
THE OTHER COMPANIES REALLY DID
LEAVE.
AND IF THIS IS THE REAON, WHAT
IS BEHIND IT.
YOU KNOW, WAS IT REALLY COSTING
THEM MORE TO TRY TO OPERATE
CITYWIDE, OR WAS IT BECAUSE
THERE ARE REGIONS OF THE CITY
WHERE THEY DON'T WANT TO
OPERATE IN?
IS THE REAL QUESTION.
AND I, IF WE HAVE THE
INFORMATION, IT WOULD BE
HELPFUL.
>> I WILL BE HAPPY TO ENGAGE
S.D.O.T.
AND SEE WHAT KIND OF
INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE.
I AM NOT, IT IS NOT, SOME OF IT
CAN SEEM LIKE HEARSAY WHEN IT
COMES TO BUSINESS REASONS FOR
WHY BUSINESSES CHOOSE TO DO
WHAT THEY DO.
BUT I WILL GET AN ANSWER FROM
S.D.O.T..
>> THANK YOU.
AND THE RESIDENT IS TRYING TO
GET BACK ONLINE HERE AND I KNOW
SHE WILL APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT LINE OF QUESTION FROM
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, AND
YOUR ANSWER, CALVIN.
>> THIS IS ANECDOTAL. I
APPRECIATE CALVIN WILL TRACK
DOWN MORE INFORMATION BUT I
REMEMBER TAKING A MEETING FROM
CAR TO GO A COUPLE YEARS AGO,
BEFORE THEY SEIZED OPERATIONS.
AND THEY WERE TAKING MY
TEMPERATURE FOR DECISIONS THEY
WANTED TO MAKE, TO GET
PERMISSION FROM S.D.O.T.
TO MAKE A CHANGE IN THE
ORDINANCE.
TO ALLOW THEM TO NO LONGER
SERVE PART OF WEST SEATTLE.
BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE DRIVING
CARS DOWNTOWN BUT NOT BRINGING
THEM BACK UNTIL THE END OF THE
DAY.
WHERE AS THEY LIKE TO SEE A LOT
OF CIRCULATION OF VEHICLES
THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
SO IT JUST WAS A PART OF TOWN
THAT PEOPLE WERE DEFINITELY
USING IT, BUT THEY WERE NOT
GETTING THE FREQUENCY OF
COVERAGE.
AND THEY WANTED TO STOP SERVING
THAT PART OF TOWN.
I DEFINITELY KNOW IT WAS A
FACTOR.
>> AND WE DO, THANK YOU
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, FOR THE
ADDITIONAL CONTEXT.
WE DO HAVE RESIDENT GONZALEZ
BACK.
ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD?
WE ARE STILL ON THE SAME TOPIC.
>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
TURNS OUT YOUR COMPUTER WILL
DIE IF YOU DON'T PLUG IT IN.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I THINK IF I WERE PICKING UP
WHAT COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WAS
LAYING DOWN RIGHT NOW, I IT
PUNCTUATES AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I
AM UNDERSTANDING THE CHANGE TO
BE.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT CREATING
THIS DISCRETION BECAUSE I DO
THINK IT WILL CREATE SOME
SIGNIFICANT INEQUITIES, IN
TERMS OF GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE.
PARTICULARLY FOR LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES AND ALSO
COMMUNITIES LIKE WEST SEATTLE
THAT MAY NEED TO RELY ON THIS,
GIVEN HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO
MOVE ABOUT ON THE PENINSULA
CURRENTLY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GET A
LITTLE BIT MORE INFO ABOUT WHY
WE ARE BOTH PRODUCING REDUCING
THE FEE, AND ALSO ELIMINATING
THE POLICY GOAL OF REQUIRING
EQUITABLE GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE OF
FREE-FLOATING CAR SHARE
SERVICES.
THAT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A GOOD
DEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY.
AND I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS
ABOUT THAT.
SO IF WE COULD HEAR A LITTLE
BIT MORE ABOUT INTENT AND
POLICY GOALS FROM S.D.O.T.,
THAT WOULD BE EXTRAORDINARILY
HELPFUL TO ME IN DECIDING
WHETHER OR NOT I CAN SUPPORT
THIS BUDGET LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU ALL VERY
MUCH.
CALVIN, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU
WILL LOOK INTO IT AND CHAT WITH
S.D.O.T.
AND GET BACK TO US ON IT , ON
THE TOPIC OF INTEREST.
CLEARLY TO A NUMBER OF MEMBERS.
APPRECIATE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE CALVIN?
>> NO.
ONE LESS PIECE OF BUDGET
LEGISLATION.
NEXT, PLEASE.
THERE IS ALSO FOR THE UPDATE OF
THE ORDINANCE, TO UPDATE THE
SERVICE RATES AND PERMIT FEES.
WHILE THE COST OF PERMIT FEES
WOULD GENERALLY INCREASE, THE
PROPOSAL DOES INCLUDE
CONSOLIDATING ADMINISTRATION
AND FILING FEES THAT WERE
PREVIOUSLY CHARGED SEPARATELY.
THE PROPOSAL ALSO CREATES A NEW
STREET IMPROVEMENT LIGHT
PERMIT, LESS EXPENSIVE PERMIT
FOR SMALL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
IT ALSO MAINTAINS THE EXISTING
FREE PERMIT PROGRAMS FOR BLOCK
HARDEE'S, SAFE STREETS, AND
SIMILAR TYPES OF PROGRAMS.
-- BLOCK PARTIES, SAFE STREETS
AND SIMILAR TYPES OF PROGRAMS.
ANY QUESTIONS?
IN MY TABLE THERE IS THE IMPACT
OF WHAT THE PERMIT CHANGE THESE
ARE TWO DIFFERENT PERMITS AND
CUSTOMERS.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE TABLE AS
WELL.
I AM NOT SEEING ANY SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES.
I DO SEE STREET IMPROVEMENT
LIGHT, A DECREASE?
>> A NEW PROGRAM.
IT CREATES A NEW PATHWAY FOR
SOME SMALLER STREET
IMPROVEMENTS.
SO RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING KIND OF
FALLS UNDER THE LARGE STREET
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
PERMIT.
THIS CARVES OUT A LESSER COST
FOR SMALLER SCALE IMPROVEMENTS.
>> OKAY.
CURRENTLY IS IT -- UNDER
UTILITY MAJOR?
>> -- UTILITY MAJOR OR REGULAR
STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE IS A LINE I THINK THERE
THAT I THINK IS JUST BELOW THAT
LINE.
>> YOU.
THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME DOLLAR
AMOUNT.
>> S.
>> GOT IT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR WALKING US TO THE
PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
PEDERSEN AS CHAIR OF
TRANSPORTATION AND THANK YOU TO
ALL OF YOU FOR THE ROBUST
DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS AND IDEAS
YOU PUT OUT TODAY.
I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR
S.D.O.T.
OVERVIEW.
THANK YOU CALVIN FOR THE WORK
YOU HAVE DONE.
AND THIS MAY COME AS A SURPRISE
TO FOLKS BUT WE ARE RIGHT ON
TIME ACCORDING TO MY SCRIPT.
[ LAUGHTER ] WE WILL MOVE
RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
CAN YOU PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER
TWO.
>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO,
ALTERNATIVES TO POLICE RESPONSE
AND THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM
FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION.
>> WONDERFUL FOR BEING HERE
WITH US.
ASHA VENKATARAMAN.
AND COLLEAGUES.
I THINK WE WILL TRY TO GET TO
THE FIRST FEW SLIS AND THEN WE
WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
AFTER THE FIRST OVERVIEW SLIS
AND BACKGROUND.
THEM BEFORE WE GET INTO ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION WE WILL HAVE THE
CHANCE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO
MAKE COMMENTS, COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD, WE WILL START WITH YOU
AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC
SAFETY ASPECTS.
THANK YOU ASHA VENKATARAMAN.
WELCOME.
>> GOOD MORNING COUNCIL
MEMBERS, I AM ASHA VENKATARAMAN
WITH THE COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF.
WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT
ALTERNATIVES TO POLICE RESPONSE
AND CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM.
I WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW AND
BACKGROUNDS OF HOW WE WILL
DISCUSS IT AND THEN TURN IT
OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES.
TO DISCUSS THE SPECIFIC SUBJECT
MATTER.
INCLUDED IN THE PAPER.
IN THE 2022 PROPOSED BUDGET
INCLUDING A VARIETY OF
PROPOSALS THAT WOULD REDUCE THE
PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND DECREASE THE
INVOLVEMENT WITH CRIMINAL LEGAL
SYSTEM IN THREE PRIMARY WAYS.
DEVELOPING ALTERNATIVES TO
CALLS TO SERVICE, FUNDING
APPROACHES OTHER THAN
PROSECUTION AND INCARCERATION,
MAKING INVESTMENTS IN COMMUNITY
LED SOLUTIONS TO THE PUBLIC
SAFETY.
TO HELP US WEAVE THROUGH THE
COMPLEXITIES OF THE INVESTMENTS,
THE PAPER AND PRESENTATION ARE
SPLIT INTO THREE MAIN SECTIONS.
AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE BUDGET
SUMMARY TABLE, THE PIECE AROUND
ALTERNATIVES TO POLICE RESPONSE
LISTS A VARIETY OF INVESTMENTS
IN THAT AREA.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT BOTH
THIS AND THE OTHER SECTIONS
DON'T NOTE EVERYTHING THE CITY
CURRENTLY FUNDS.
BY MERELY THE THINGS THAT HAVE
IMPLICATIONS IN THE 2022
PROPOSED BUDGET AND FUNDING
ACROSS DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING
HUMAN SERVICES, FIRE, CITY
ATTORNEY AND COURT.
WITHIN THE ALTERNATIVES TO
POLICE RESPONSE, YOU WILL SEE
THERE IS ENTRIES RELATED TO
MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH,
COMMUNITY SAFETY AND
COMMUNICATION CENTER,
ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSE, CRISIS
RESPONSE UNITS AND CRISIS LINES.
IN THE 2021 ADOPTED BUDGET WE
WERE LOOKING AT $20.4 MILLION
RELATED TO THE RESPONSES.
THAT IS INCREASED BY ABOUT
ALMOST 26%, UP TO $26.9 MILLION
IN THE 2022 PROPOSED BUDGET.
IN TERMS OF ALTERNATIVES TO
PROSECUTION AND JAIL, WE ARE
LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT
PREFILING DIVERSION AND
ELECTRONIC HOME MONITORING
SUBSIDIES.
HAS A PROPOSED INCREASE OF
ABOUT 52% OF UP TO $975,000 IN
THE 2022 PROPOSED BUDGET.
NEXT SLI, PLEASE.
LOOKING AT COMMUNITY LED QUICK
SAFETY INVESTMENTS, YOU WILL
SEE THERE IS A VARIETY OF
PROGRAMS ALL OF WHICH ARE
CURRENTLY FUNDED AT ABOUT $24.2
MILLION IN 2021.
AND HAVE DECREASED BY 13 1/2%,
ABOUT $20.9 MILLION IN 2022.
NEXT SLI, PLEASE.
SO THIS PRESENTATION IS DIVIDED
INTO SEVERAL PARTS, AS I
MENTIONED I WILL PROVIDE A
BASIC INTRODUCTION AND
BACKGROUND TO THE PRESENTATION
ITSELF AND CONSIDERATIONS IN
THE ISSUE I.D.
PAPER.
AND I WILL TURN IT TO MY
COLLEAGUES TO TALK ALTERNATIVES
TO POLICE RESPONSE INCLUDING
BOTH THE CATEGORIES OF
ALTERNATIVES, HOW YOU ALL MIGHT
CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING THE
ALTERNATIVES, AND ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION.
THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT
ALTERNATIVES OF PROSECUTION AND
JAIL, ISSUE I.D.
AND BACK ON AN ISSUE IDEA
PUBLIC LED SAFETY INVESTMENTS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND, YOU
WILL NOTE IN THE PAPER THERE
ARE A VARIETY OF REPORTS THAT
ARE REFERENCED THAT HAVE
RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THE
CRIMINAL SYSTEM.
THE REPORTS ARE A RESULT OF
EARLIER DISCUSSIONS IN THE 2019
ADOPTED BUDGET, REGARDING THE
CITY'S ALIGNMENT ALONG
INVESTMENTS AND POLICIES.
SOME LACK OF ALIGNMENT THAT
EXISTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
AND VARIOUS RANGES OF GOVERNMENT
RELATED TO THE CRIMINAL LEGAL
SYSTEM.
AND ALSO INCORPORATES THE
COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF RACIAL
DISPROPORTIONALITY THAT EXIST
NATIONWIDE AND LOCALLY IN THE
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM.
SUED THE RECOMMENDATION, EXCUSE
ME, THE PRINCIPLES THAT ARE
LISTED ARE COMING FROM THE
COMMUNITY TASK FORCE REPORT ON
THE LEGAL SYSTEM, WHICH HE MAY
HAVE HEARD ABOUT IN THE PUBLIC
SAFETY AND HUMAN SERVICES
COMMUNITY COMMITTEE IN
SEPTEMBER.
THIS IS TO INFORM THE COUNCIL
CONSIDERATION OF THE CURRENT
LEGAL SYSTEM IN GENERAL.
THEY CONSIST OF THE PIECES
AROUND DIVESTING FROM THE
SYSTEM AND INVESTING IN
COMMUNITIES.
SUPPORTING COMMUNITY CAPACITY
TO RESPOND TO HARMS,
INDEPENDENT OF THE SYSTEM AND
CITY.
PROVIDING RESOURCES OF FUNDING
TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND
PRIORITIZING SURVIVOR SUPPORT.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
IN ADDITION, YOU MIGHT HAVE
HEARD ABOUT THE CRIMINAL LEGAL
SYSTEM THE STRATEGIC PLAN, A
REPORT THAT CAME FROM THE
COUNCIL REQUEST BACK IN 2019.
THE STRATEGIC PLAN WAS HURT IN
THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND HUMAN
SERVICES COMMITTEE BACK IN JUNE
OF THIS YEAR.
IT IS BASED ON THE VARIETY OF
COMMUNITY GUIDING PRINCIPLES
AND THE ONES LISTED ON THE SLI
ARE THOSE THAT ARE RELATED TO
PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY
INVOLVED IN THE SYSTEM.
I WILL GO THROUGH AND READ ALL
OF THEM BUT THEY HAVE SIMILAR
THEMES TO THE TASK FORCE REPORT.
IN THE SENSE THAT THE CITY
SHOULD PRODUCE UNEQUAL
TREATMENT, COMPASSIONATELY AND
COMPETENTLY ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND
MENTAL ILLNESS.
FINDING ALTERNATIVES TO FORMAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT, FINDING ROOT
CAUSES AND DECRIMINALIZATION,
AND ALTERNATIVES TO ARRESTS.
AT THIS POINT, IF THERE ARE NO
QUESTIONS I WILL TURN IT TO MY
COLLEAGUES TO TALK ABOUT
ALTERNATIVES TO POLICE RESPONSE.
>> LET'S TAKE A FEW QUESTIONS
BEFORE WE GET INTO THE
ALTERNATIVES.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> NOT A QUESTION BUT A
CLARIFICATION.
ASHA MENTIONED THAT MIDI
BRIEFING FROM THE LEGAL TASK
FORCE IN MY COMMITTEE.
THERE WAS A PRIOR BRIEFING FROM
CENTRAL STAFFER WHO, WHAT WE
BROUGHT ON, TO DEVELOP A
STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND WE ALSO HAD A BRIEFING IN
MY COMMITTEE WITH CARLOS BEFORE
HE LEFT.
A TIME-LIMITED POSITION TO
DEVELOP A STRATEGIC PLAN.
HE PRESENTED, I BELIEVE, IT WAS
MAYBE IN JULY.
AND I JUST WITH THAT UP BECAUSE
THERE IS SOME DIFFERENCES.
RIGHT?
THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS
DEVELOPED BY CENTRAL STAFF AND
THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE
CRIMINAL, LEGAL SYSTEM TASK
FORCE MEMBERS.
AND THERE IS A LOT OF ALIGNMENT
TOO.
BUT SINCE ASHA IS LIFTING THE
TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS, I
DID WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DID
NOT FORGET THE GREAT REPORT
THAT CARLOS PUT TOGETHER AS
WELL.
I THINK IT IS PART OF A WHOLE,
IS HOW I WOULD LIKE TO THINK OF
IT.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE
STRATEGIC PLAN, I THINK WE
SHOULD THINK OF IT AGAIN AS A
WHOLE THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE
TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS AND
THE, I DON'T KNOW, THE YEAR,
TWO YEARS LONG WORK OF THE
CENTRAL STAFF AND THIS PRODUCT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANKS FOR THE CONTEXT,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND
CONTINUE.
>> GOOD MORNING.
ANN GORMAN, MY ROLE IS TO WALK
THROUGH WHAT WE NEED BY
ALTERNATIVES TO POLICE RESPONSE
TO PROVIDE CONTEXT OR ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION IN THE AREA.
WE WE TALK ALTERNATIVES TO
POLICE RESPONSE, BROADLY
SPEAKING WE MEAN ANY RESPONSE TO
AN INCIDENT THAT IS NOT 100%
COMPRISED OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE RESPONSE COULD HAVE ZERO
PARTICIPATION FROM LAW
ENFORCEMENT OR IT COULD BE LAW
ENFORCEMENT WITH A CIVILIAN
RESPONDER.
TYPICALLY THIS IS SOMEONE WHO
HAS TRAINING IN MENTAL AND
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.
JUST TO SET THE SCENE, THE
STUDY ALTERNATIVES POLICE HAS
EXPANDED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL
YEARS IN RECOGNITION OF THE
FACT THAT A LARGE NUMBER OF
SERVICE CALLS DO HAVE A MENTAL
AND BEHAVIORAL COMPONENT AND
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE
IS NOT ONLY INAPPROPRIATE TO
SOME OF THESE CALLS, BUT MAY
ACTUALLY COMPOUND THE STRESS OF
PEOPLE AT THE SCENE.
AT THE SAME TIME THERE ARE
SITUATIONS IN WHICH A LAW
ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE IS EXACTLY
WHAT IS NEEDED AND ALL OF THE
ALTERNATIVES THAT WE ARE GOING
TO WALK THROUGH TODAY WOULD
HAVE THE EFFECT OF FREEING UP
LAW ENFORCEMENT, TO CONCENTRATE
ON THE WORK THAT THEY ARE
UNIQUELY TRAINED AND SWORN TO
DO.
SO THIS SLI LISTS CATEGORIES
OR ELEMENTS TO POLICE RESPONSE,
BUT SOMETHING WE WANT TO
EMPHASIZE IS ANYONE
PROGRAMMATIC SOLUTION COULD
WEAVE TOGETHER TWO OR MORE
CATEGORIES.
THE FIRST ON THE LIST IS MOBILE
INTEGRATED HEALTH. THESE ARE
NONEMERGENCY RESOURCES AND
TREATMENT PROVIDED BY A MOBILE
CARE PROVIDER OR PROVIDERS.
PROVIDERS COME TO THE SCENE,
COME TO WHEREVER THEY ARE,
THEIR GOAL IS TO MEET THE
IMMEDIATE NEED AND MOVE ON.
POTENTIALLY TO SERVE SOMEONE
ELSE.
SOMETIMES THE PERSON AT THE
SCENE HAS A NEED THAT CANNOT BE
MET RIGHT THERE AND RIGHT THEN.
PERHAPS THERE IS AN UNDERLYING
SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUE OR THE
PERSON'S UNDERLYING NEED IS FOR
SHELTER.
IN THAT CASE THERE IS TYPICALLY
MENTAL OR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
PERSON ON THE SCENE THAT CAN
HELP CONNECT THE PERSON TO
SERVICES THAT WILL BE OF
ASSISTANCE IN THE FUTURE THAT
THEY CAN PROVIDE REFERRALS.
A COUPLE DIFFERENT KINDS OF
MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH, THERE
IS MEDICAL AND NONMEDICAL
MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH, THE
CITY CURRENTLY HAS A MEDICAL
MIH PROGRAM, HEALTHONE IN THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT.
TWO FIREFIGHTERS AND A COUNSELOR
FROM HSD, THEY COME TO PEOPLE
AND THEY PROVIDE THE SERVICES
THEY NEED.
IN SOME CASES REFERRALS THEY
NEED, AND AGAIN, MOVE ON TO THE
NEXT TWO NEEDS ASSISTANCE.
ALL FIREFIGHTERS ARE EMTS, SO
THAT IS THE HEALTHCARE
COMPONENT OF THE MODEL.
THE CITY ALSO HAS THE
NONMEDICAL MIH PROGRAM, COUNCIL
, CRISIS RESPONSE UNIT, THE
RESPONDERS ARE AN OFFICER WITH
CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING
AND COUNSELOR FROM HSD.
TYPICALLY, AS IN THE HEALTHONE
PROGRAM, THE COUNSELOR CAN
ATTEND TO THE SCENE AND THEN
ALSO MAKE REFERRALS TO ONGOING
SERVICES.
THE BUDGET INCLUDES ANOTHER
MEDICAL MIH UNIT, TRIAGE ONE
LOCATED IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
AS A COMPLEMENT TO HEALTHONE.
A COUPLE KEY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN
HEALTHONE AND TRIAGE ONE, FIRST
OF ALL THE RESPONDERS IN THE
POST PROGRAM WOULD ONLY ATTEND
TO THE SCENE OF NONMEDICAL,
NONEMERGENCY CALLS.
SOMETHING TO NOTE HERE IS THAT
THE PROGRAM IS ACKNOWLEDGING AND
UNKNOT MADE FOR -- UNMET NEED
FOR ADULT HEALTH RESPONSE.
SECOND, IT INCLUDES THE TRIAGE
TEAM RESPONDERS RESPONDING TO
DOWN CALLS AND PERFORMING
WELFARE CHECKS.
HEALTHONE DOES NOT PERFORM THIS
WORK.
BOTH OF THE BODIES OF WORK ARE
CURRENTLY IN SPD AND IN 29
CALL TYPES BEING ANALYZED FOR
POTENTIAL FEASIBILITY OF
CIVILIAN RESPONSE.
NO DECISION YET ON THAT FROM
SPD.
>> PLEASE REMIND US OF THE
TIMELINE FOR WHEN WE EXPECT THE
DECISIONS.
>> I DO NOT HAVE THE
INFORMATION YET BUT I WILL
CHECK ON IT AND FOLLOW UP.
TABLE 1 ON PAGE 8 OF THE MEMO.
SUMMARIZES --
>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AXES ME,
I AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU
ANN.
IT IS GREAT TO SEE YOU, BUT I
DID SEE COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
POP AND REALLY QUICK.
>> WE ARE PROBABLY JUMPING IN
FOR THE SAME SEASON.
THEY ARE TELLING US END OF
QUARTER ONE.
THERE IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT
WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT THEM TO
DO THE 29 CALL TYPES NOW AND
GET THAT OVER WITH OR TO DO THE
WHOLE ANALYSIS OF ALL 50% OF
CALL TYPES THAT THE REPORT SAYS
MAY NOT BE THE RESPONSE.
THEY ARE TELLING US THAT THEY
CAN DO THE BIG LIST AS QUICKLY
AS THE SMALLEST AND THEY ARE
SAYING THEY CAN GET THE REPORT
BY THE END OF QUARTER ONE.
BUT I WAS SOMEBODY WHO WAS
REALLY WANTING THEM TO FOCUS ON
THAT, THE SMALLER NUMBERS,
SINCE THERE WAS STRONG
AGREEMENT THAT THAT WAS A
NUMBER THAT WE SORT OF, THE LOW
HANGING FRUIT.
BUT IF WE CAN ACTUALLY CONFIRM
THAT THEY CAN DO THE BIG ONE IN
THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME I DON'T
HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO GET
INFORMATION BEFORE THE BUDGET
PROCESS, BUT I APPRECIATE HOW
FAST AND HARD YOU HAVE BEEN
WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY TO GET
THE LIST.
GREG, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
ANY ADDITIONAL CONTEXT?
>> THANKS.
JUST ONE MORE COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD, IN ALL MY TIMING WITH
POLICE, I WILL CALL OUT THAT
SPD WILL ASK IN THE 2022
PROPOSED BUDGET TO USE 260,000
OF THE SALARY SAVINGS ON
DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOFTWARE TO
COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
THAT NOW.
SO WHEN I GET TO IT THIS
AFTERNOON, YOU HAVE A MARKER
FOR IT.
THANKS.
>> APPRECIATE IT, PREVIEW OF A
ROBUST DISCUSSION TO COME THIS
AFTERNOON.
I AM GLAD WE ARE STARTING WITH
ALTERNATIVES CONVERSATION AND I
APOLOGIZE FOR THE INTERRUPTION.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> ALL WELCOME INFORMATION.
THE MEMO ALSO HAS INFORMATION
ABOUT THE MOBILE CRISIS TEAM,
ACHING COUNTY PROGRAM FOR WHICH
COUNCIL INCLUDED BUNTING IN
THE 2021 ADOPTED BUDGET.
THE FUNDING CONTINUES IN THE
2022 PROPOSED BUDGET.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS
SPECIFIC TO MOBILE INTEGRATED
HEALTH BEFORE I GO ON?
THIS DEFINITIONAL STUFF TAKES A
WHILE.
>> GREAT, THANK YOU FOR PAUSING.
I SEE A QUESTION FROM
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND
ANN, THANK YOU FOR GETTING US
STARTED HERE.
I WANT TO ASK QUICKLY, AT THE
BEGINNING HERE, OF THESE
RESPONSES, WHAT IS AND ISN'T A
DIRECT 911 RESPONDER?
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE MOBILE
INTEGRATED HEALTH TEAM, THEY ARE
A TEAM THAT RESPONDS AFTER A
911 FIRST RESPONDER GETS THERE
AND FLAGS THEM AS SOMEONE TO
COME OUT.
IS THAT THE CASE?
I WANT TO CONFIRM WHAT IS A
FIRST RESPONDER IN THE LIST AND
A SECONDARY RESPONDER.
>> HEALTHONE CAN ALSO BE
DIRECTLY DISPATCHED.
BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT
IS CONVEYED IN THE 911 CALL.
>> I KNOW HEALTHONE CAN.
I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE DE SC
CRISIS INTERVENTION.
THOSE FOLKS.
>> I BELIEVE THAT TEAM NEEDS TO
BE SUMMONED TO THE SCENE BY A
FIRST RESPONDER.
I CAN CHECK ON THAT AND
CONFIRM.
>> THANK YOU.
PERFECT.
THAT IS WHAT I WAS SEEKING
CLARIFICATION ON.
>> I CAN GET CONFIRMATION.
THE FIRST RESPONDERS CAN REACH
OUT TO MOBILE CRISIS TEAM TO
COME IN RESPONSE TO A CALL.
THERE IS A PATHWAY WHERE THE
CRISIS CONNECTIONS OR
DESIGNATED CRISIS RESPONDER CAN
ALSO CALL ON THE MOBILE CRISIS
TEAM.
THERE ARE OTHER PATHWAYS.
I THINK THE ONE WE ARE MOST
FAMILIAR WITH IS THE FIRST
RESPONDERS CALLING ON-SITE.
>> THANK YOU JEFF, GREAT TO SEE
YOU AS WELL.
THANK YOU FROM THE EARLIER
RESPONSE FROM GREG.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD
LISE?
I SEE ONE SCREEN.
>> NO, THANK YOU.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO.
IT TAKES A TEAM.
WONDERFUL.
APPRECIATE THAT ANN.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
IT IS A GREAT QUESTION TEEING
UP SOME OF THE FIRST ISSUE I.D.
ISSUES THAT I THINK WE WILL GET
TO AS WELL.
I APPRECIATE IT.
>> I WILL MOVE ON.
ANOTHER TYPE OF ALTERNATIVE TO
POLICE RESPONSE IS THE
CIVILIZATION OF OFFICER
FUNCTIONS.
BASED ON THE STRUCTURE OF THE
TRIAGE ONE PROPOSAL, YOU CAN
SEE IT INCLUDES BOTH ITEMS ONE
AND ITEMS TWO ON THE LIST.
IT HAS THE MIH FOCUS AND
INCLUDES CIVILIZATION OF
OFFICER FUNCTION.
OFFICERS OTHER THAN RESPONDERS,
FOR PARTICIPATING IN COMMUNITY
MEETINGS, AND SUPPORTING CITY
HEALTH PROGRAMS.
WE KNOW MANY MEMBERS OF BIPOC
COMMUNITIES ARE NERVOUS AND MAY
MAKE PRESENCE MORE WELCOME AT
EVENTS LIKE THIS, IN CONTRAST
TO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
I KNOW GREG WILL TALK ABOUT THE
COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS THIS
AFTERNOON.
NEXT ITEM, ADMINISTRATIVE
RESPONSES TO SERVICE CALLS.
IT MAY BE POSSIBLE FOR
CIVILIANS TO TAKE ON SOME OF
THE WORK.
ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSES ARE
THINGS LIKE TAKING REPORTS OF
MINOR ACCIDENTS AND PROPERTY
DISTRACTIONS.
AT THE SAME TIME SPD IS WORKING
ON ANALYSIS OF CALL TYPES AND
CENTRAL STAFF WORKING WITH THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO
UNDERSTAND WHETHER THERE ARE
CALL TYPES THAT REQUIRE, BY
STATE LAW, LAW ENFORCEMENT
RESPONSE.
AND I SHOULD NOTE FOR ITEM 3,
ANYTIME WE TALK ABOUT TRANSFER
OF WORK, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
BARGAINING FOR THE UNION.
CRISIS LINE CAN ALSO BE A
ALTERNATIVE, A RESOURCE TO
PEOPLE HAVING A MENTAL OR
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS.
PEOPLE ANSWERING THE PHONES
PROVIDE ADVICE, SUPPORT,
INFORMATION, OTHER NUMBERS TO
CALL, TO GET MORE SPECIALIZED
HELP.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THESE
OPERATING IN SEATTLE, INCLUDING
THE ONE CALL PILOT, WHICH I
BELIEVE JEFF REFERRED TO.
THAT THIS EMERGENCY RESPONDERS
CALL CRISIS CONNECTIONS FOR HELP
WHEN THEY ARE UNSEEN AND
SOMEONE IS HAVING A CRISIS.
THERE IS $403,000 IN THE
PROPOSED BUDGET.
TO EXTEND THE PILOT PROGRAM.
COMING ONLINE SOON AS A NEW
STATEWIDE 988 SYSTEM THAT WILL
LAUNCH IN THE MIDDLE OF NEXT
YEAR.
A NEW NUMBER THAT PEOPLE CAN
CALL 24 HOURS A DAY WHEN THEY
ARE CONSIDERING SELF-HARM OR
HAVING A MENTAL OR BEHAVIORAL
CRISIS.
NONE OF THE OPTIONS ALLOW FOR
THE DISPATCH OF THERAPEUTIC YOU
SOURCES TO THE PERSON CALLING.
FINALLY, PROTOCOLS, THESE ARE
THE QUESTIONS THAT LEAD CALLERS,
EXCUSE ME, THE CALL TAKER'S
LEAD CALLERS THROUGH WHEN THEY
CALL 91.
THE SCRIPTS AND DECISION TREES
AND PROTOCOLS HELP DISPATCHERS
SEND THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE.
AGAIN RIGHT NOW THE ONLY
RESPONSES WE CAN SEND OUR SPD
AND S FD.
FUNDING IN THE -- TO CREATE A
STANDARDIZED INTERROGATION CALL
IN THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WOULD
LEAD TO THE COLLECTION OF MORE
CONSISTENT DATA AND WOULD ALSO
SUPPORT THE EQUITABLE PROVISION
OF SERVICES.
THIS DATA MIGHT BE USEFUL IN
THE FUTURE TO HELP GUIDE THE
DEVELOPMENT OF NEW NONPOLICE
DISPATCH PROTOCOLS.
ANY QUESTIONS HERE?
BEFORE I MOVED TO THE NEXT SLI.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION.
JUST GETTING BACK TO
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS' EARLIER
QUESTION ABOUT HOW MUCH OF
THESE CATEGORIES ARE DIRECTLY
DISPATCHED.
AND IN THE FACT THAT IT IS
FAIRLY LIMITED RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT?
AND I THINK WE HAVE A POLICY
INTEREST IN GROWING THE
ALTERNATIVES THAT CAN BE
DISPATCHED.
BUT THE FUNDING THAT THE
COUNCIL PROVIDED A COUPLE
MONTHS AGO FOR THE DISPATCH
PROTOCOLS IS A NECESSARY
PRECONDITION YOU KNOW, RIGHT
NOW, THE QUESTIONS THAT DISPATCH
ASKS, AND HAS ANSWERED, WHEN
SOMEONE CALLS 911 ARE FAIRLY
SIMPLE.
AND THEY ARE SIMPLE BECAUSE
THEY ONLY NEED TO GET YOU TO
ONE OR TWO ALTERNATIVES.
AS SOON AS YOU START ADDING
MORE ALTERNATIVES, THE
QUESTIONS NECESSARY BECOME MORE
COMPLEX AND LOOK LIKE A
DECISION TREE.
SO THAT IS WHAT I THINK THE
COUNCIL DID A GOOD RING BY NOT
WAITING UNTIL THIS DISCUSSION
ABOUT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, IN
ORDER TO FUND THOSE DISPATCH
PROTOCOLS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET THEM IN
PLACE BEFORE WE HAVE ANY
ADDITIONAL RESPONDERS WHO ARE
BEING DISPATCHED BY 911.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
ANN IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, YOU
ARE WELCOME.
>> IF I COULD CLARIFY, THE
CURRENT INVESTMENT IN THE CS CC,
WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO GET
US TO A PLACE WHERE WE WERE
ABLE TO DISPATCH NON-SPD, NON-
SFD RESOURCES.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER
INVESTMENT BEFORE THAT CAME
POSSIBLE.
BUT IT IS A GOOD BASE SET OF
DATA AND THE CURRENT INVESTMENT
WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT FUTURE
INVESTMENTS.
>> WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, PLEASE
GO AHEAD.
>> THANK YOU.
ANN, I AM HOPING YOU CAN HELP
ME SORT SOME THINGS OUT.
SO I AM LOOKING AT PAGE 10 OF
THE MEMO.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE REPORT, 80%
OF THE CALLS WITHIN THE TWO
YEAR PERIOD WERE NOT CRIMINAL.
THE REPORT RECOMMENDS THAT
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE OPTIONS
SHOULD BE DEVELOPED FOR THE 70%
OF CALLS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
BUT THEN IT SAYS THAT WE ARE
REALLY ONLY GOING TO BE LOOKING
AT 12% OF CALLS TO TRY TO SHIFT
AWAY.
IS THAT BECAUSE WE JUST HAVEN'T
RAMPED UP OR IS THERE SOME
OTHER REASON WHY WE ARE ONLY
LOOKING TO TRY TO DIVERT 12% OF
THE CALLS?
>> LET ME FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
I AM AWARE, I HAVE SEEN THIS
30%, 12% SEEMING INCONSISTENCY
REFERENCED BEFORE.
I AM NOT AS SCHOOLED AS SOME OF
MY COLLEAGUES ARE IN THE REPORT.
BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP ABOUT
THAT.
I KNOW THAT THE 29 CALL TYPES
THEY WERE THE LOW HANGING
FRUIT, IF YOU WILL.
I AM NOT AWARE THAT ANYONE IS
THINKING OF THE 29 CALL TYPES
AS THE END OF THE STORY.
IT IS GREG.
THANK YOU, GREG.
>> THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, FOR
A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND I THINK
YOU ARE FAMILIAR, THE STUDY
DIVIDED CALL TYPES INTO FOUR
DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
THE TIER THAT HAS THE 29 CALL
TYPES WE HAVE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT, IS THE ONE THAT
BASICALLY AN OFFICER IS NOT
REQUIRED.
THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH, FOR THE
MOST PART, FOR THE MOST PART
NONCRIMINAL.
THEY ARE, THEY ARE STILL
POTENTIALLY SOME THAT HAVE RISK.
THAT IS WHY SPD RISK OF INJURY
TO A CIVILIAN, THAT IS WHY THEY
ARE DOING THE ANALYSIS ON THEM.
SPD IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO
ANALYSIS ON OTHER CALLS THAT
ARE NONCRIMINAL CALLS.
CALLS THAT MIGHT EXTEND INTO
THE OTHER TIERS AND THEY HAVE A
PROJECT RISK TO MANAGEMENT
SOFTWARE THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO
DO THAT KIND OF RISK ANALYSIS
TO DETERMINE WHAT A CIVILIAN
COULD SAFELY GO TO.
SO THAT IS A PROJECT THAT IS IN
THE PIPELINE, SO TO SPEAK.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING TOTALLY
BEING FORGOTTEN.
IT IS JUST MORE OF A NEXT STEP
IN A PROJECT THAT IS ONE I WILL
TALK ABOUT THIS AFTERNOON.
>> THANK YOU.
>> OKAY.
WONDERFUL.
LET'S GO ON TO 2 OF 2 HERE.
>> THANK YOU.
SO IF THE COUNCIL DID WANT TO
IMPLEMENT ONE OR MORE OF THE
ALTERNATIVES, WHAT MIGHT THAT
LOOK LIKE?
ONE OPTION WOULD BE TO LOCATE
ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONS AND/OR
STAFFING THAT SUPPORT
ALTERNATIVES TO POLICE RESPONSE
IN THIS CS CC.
THE CS WAS SET UP TO PROVIDE
CIVILIAN AND COMMUNITY-BASED
SERVICES AND SOLUTIONS TO
COMMUNITY-BASED CHALLENGES.
COUNCIL COULD DETERMINED IT IS
THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FROM
WHICH TO DIRECT NONMEDICAL
THERAPEUTIC RESPONDERS.
ONE NOTE HERE IS IN THE CURRENT
LOCATION, THE CS CC IS SPACE
CONSTRAINT AND NOT ABLE TO ADD
ADDITIONAL STAFF ON-SITE.
ANOTHER ADDITIONAL OPTION IS
ALTERNATIVES TO POLICE RESPONSE
IN SFD, CONSECUTIVE WITH THE
PROPOSAL FOR THE NEW TRIAGE
TEAM.
THE TEAM WOULD REQUIRE HSD AND
-- STAFF, WORKING TOGETHER.
ANOTHER OPTION IS PARTNERING
WITH COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICE
DIVIDER ON MOBILE INTEGRATED
HEALTH SOLUTION, PERHAPS AS A
PILOT PROGRAM.
OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THIS,
WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IS A
CONTRAST WITH A LOCAL NONPROFIT
THAT HAS EXPERIENCE PROVIDING
LOCAL HEALTH SERVICES.
THE APPENDIX OUTLINE ALONG THOSE
OUTLINES, BENEFITS AND
DRAWBACKS TO THE MODELS AND IF
COUNCIL WANTED TO ANALYZE ANY
PARTICULAR FRAMEWORK, CENTRAL
STAFF WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO
SUPPORT THE EFFORT.
>> WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU. I
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS FIRST AND
THEN I BELIEVE COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, DO YOU
HAVE A QUESTION?
>> I WILL DEFAULT TO
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AND THEN
I WOULD LIKE TO JUMP IN AFTER.
>> GREAT COLLEGIALITY, TEAM.
PLEASE GO AHEAD COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
>> YOU DESCRIBED A POTENTIAL
PILOT.
BUT WE ALREADY FUND A PROGRAM
THAT WOULD FIT THAT DEFINITION.
RIGHT?
THE MOBILE CRISIS TEAM THROUGH
DE SC.
>> THIS COULD BE A PILOT THAT
WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE DISPATCH
OF MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL
HEALTHCARE RESOURCES, TO THE
SCENE, WHERE IT IS NEEDED.
>> SO NOT HOW THE SERVICE WAS
PROVIDED BUT HOW WAS ACCESS.
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO CLARIFY.
IT IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
POTENTIAL TO CONTRACT, THAT IS
NOT IN REFERENCE TO CHANGING
WHAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN
SFD.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS, FOLLOW
UP?
GO AHEAD.
>> TO JUMP ON THE SAME THEME.
THAT TEAM IS NOT A FIRST
RESPONSE FUNCTION CURRENTLY.
IT IS KEPT BY A DIFFERENT
PROVIDER.
I DO NOT NECESSARILY THINK IN
HAVING STUDIED SOME OF THESE
PROVIDER-BASED RESPONSE
PROGRAMS AND OTHER CITIES, THAT
I AM NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT
GETTING A CAPABILITY TO THAT
TEAM.
I THINK I AM TALKING ABOUT
DEVELOPING MORE OF AN
INTERMEDIARY THE SERVICE THAT
COULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE
GATEKEEPER THAT RESPONSE FIRST
TO THE SCENE, THEN IF THEY NEED
THE HIGHER ACUITY SERVICE, CAN
SUMMON THE DE SC TEAM.
I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE
MAJORITY OF CALLS FOR SERVICE
THAT THERE IS NECESSARILY THE
NEED FOR THAT HIGH OF ACUITY
LEVEL OF RESPONSE.
I THINK IN A LOT OF CASES YOU
CAN SEE A LOW ACUITY PROVIDER-
BASED SERVICE PROVIDED LIKE
TRESPASS, OR SOME OF THE PERSON
DOWN CALLS THAT THE TRIAGE TEAM
IS ENVISIONED TO RESPOND TO,
THAT DON'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE
THE MORE INTENSE CAPABILITY OF
THE TEAM.
THAT WOULD OPERATE IN A LOWER
OVERALL POTENTIAL COST OF WHAT
IS IN ENVISIONED.
I THINK IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE
COMPLICATED AND I THINK THERE
IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OVERLAP
WITH THE TRIAGE CONCEPT.
MAYBE I WILL JUST BOOKMARK THIS
FOR FUTURE COMMENTS, AS WE GET
INTO THE DIFFERENT SERVICES A
LITTLE BIT MORE.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS THE
APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THAT,
MADAM CHAIR.
OR IF WE WANT TO WAIT FOR A
FUTURE SLI.
>> LET'S TAKE SOME MORE
COMMENTS AND SEE IF THAT SOUNDS
OKAY.
>> --
>> I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING
METAL.
AND I THINK SIMILAR TO THE
CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD THIS
MONTH, LAST MONTH, BIG ISSUES
WE ARE HEARING FROM SOME FIRST
RESPONDERS, ESPECIALLY FIRE,
THEY NEED A LANDING PLACE FOR
PEOPLE THEY SEE.
IT IS LESS ABOUT WHO THE FIRST
RESPONDER IS, IN EVERY CASE.
AND MORE ABOUT WHO THEY CAN
REFER OUT TO.
I THINK THOSE ARE SOME
QUESTIONS I WILL ASK AS WELL.
YES, WE WANT THE FIRST
RESPONDER IN MANY WAYS TO NOT
NECESSARILY BE THE PEOPLE WITH
A GUN SHOWING A. WHAT WE NEED
IS A MEDICAL UNIT.
OR PEOPLE WITH THE ABILITY AND
TRAINING TO TREAT THE MIND AND
BODY.
AND THEN THE BIGGER QUESTION
IS, WHERE DO THEY GO?
SO, BUT, WE WILL TEE UP SOME
QUESTIONS FOR THE ISSUE I.D.
HERE TO COME.
I WANT TO SEE IF THERE IS
ANYMORE QUESTIONS ON THE
PREVIOUS SLI THAT WE SAW BEFORE
WE GET INTO ISSUE I.D.
HERE.
OKAY, ANN, YOU ARE REALLY
HELPFUL, I THINK IN EXPLAINING
TO FOLKS WHAT ALTERNATIVES LOOK
LIKE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE
PREVIOUS SLI BEFORE WE MOVE ON
BUT I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK,
WERE YOU ABLE TO CONCLUDE YOUR
COMMENTS FOR THE BACKGROUND?
>> I JUST WANT TO AGREE WITH
SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE
COMMENTD THAT IT IS A COMPLEX
AREA DESIGNING THE MIH PROGRAM
AND THE PROGRAM IS NECESSARILY
GOING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO
SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT THEY WANT TO
IDENTIFY.
THE TABLE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER,
SHOWING HOW OTHER CITIES HAVE
CHOSEN TO STEP FORWARD, REALLY
ILLUSTRATES THE FACT THAT THEY
ALL LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO IT REALLY IS APPROPRIATE TO
CRAFT FOR THE NEED.
>> LET ME FIND THE MUTE BUTTON.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I
UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID ON
ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CRISIS
LINE, THE INDIVIDUAL THEMSELVES
HAVING THE CRISIS.
THEY ARE EXPERIENCING A MENTAL
HEALTH CRISIS.
THAT THEY ARE HAVING SUICIDAL
THOUGHTS.
HOWEVER, THIS IS A NUMBER, IT
IS NOT FOR IF YOU SEE SOMEONE
HAVING A CRISIS?
>> THAT IS CORRECT.
I THINK IF YOU ARE IN THE SAME
ROOM AS SOMEONE IN CRISIS, THE
NEW 988 NUMBER MIGHT BE THE
REALLY GOOD RESOURCE TO HAVE.
BUT YES, YOU ARE CORRECT, YOUR
PICTURE IS ACCURATE.
>> IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY
POTENTIALLY ON THE STREET
HAVING AN EPISODE OR NEEDING
ASSISTANCE, THAT IS NOT THE
RIGHT NUMBER TO CALL.
AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE WORKING,
I THINK, TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE
, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE
TRIAGE MODEL BEHIND THE SCENES
WHEN 911 HIS CALL TO MAKE SURE
THE APPROPRIATE PERSON IS THEN
SENT TO THE SITUATION IN THE
APPROPRIATE PERSON COULD BE
SOMEONE WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND
CASE MANAGEMENT BACKGROUND,
ALONG WITH HEALTH SERVICES THAT
YOU MENTIONED.
OKAY.
LET'S GET INTO ISSUE
IDENTIFICATION HERE.
>> ISSUE NUMBER ONE.
THIS CONCERNS CALLERS WHO ARE
DEALING WITH A MENTAL OR
BEHAVIORAL CRISIS AND WHAT
IDEALLY LIKE FOR THERAPEUTIC
RESOURCES TO COME TO THE SCENE
OF THE CRISIS.
CURRENTLY THE CITY IS NOT ABLE
TO DISPATCH SUCH RESOURCES.
COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY WISH TO
START PLANNING FOR THAT.
OPTION A WOULD ADD FUNDING FOR
STUDY THAT WOULD RECOMMEND A
PLAN FOR NON-911 CRISIS
RESPONSE LINE.
AND FOR VARIOUS WAYS THAT THE
LINE COULD BE STOPPED.
OPTION B, NO ACTION.
NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
>> OKAY.
ANY THOUGHTS ON THE OPTIONS?
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> [ LAUGHTER ] YOU KNOW, THE
ONE CAVEAT, OR QUESTION I WOULD
PUT OUT THERE, I THINK THE GOAL
IS STILL TRYING TO CIVILIAN
EYES 911.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO
CALL 911 BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN
TRAINED AND CONDITIONED TO DO
THAT.
BUT BEHIND THE SCENES WE ARE
HOPING THERE IS MORE OPTIONS ON
THE DISPATCH SIDE AND WE CAN
DEPLOY THE APPROPRIATE PERSON
AND STAY CONNECTED TO THE VISION
AND SETTING UP A CLEAR CHOICE
FOR FOLKS TO KNOW THAT WHEN
THEY CALL 911, THERE'LL BE A
HEALTHY AND SAFE ALTERNATIVE TO
POLICING STILL AVAILABLE, IS
MICHAEL.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANKS.
I WANT TO NOTE HERE I AM OF THE
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE STATE
CRISIS, THE FUNDING FOR THE
STATE, FOR A CRISIS LINE, A NON-
FIRST RESPONDER CRISIS LINE, IS
NOT ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN
CRISIS, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING,
WE HAD FOLKS COME IN AND PRESENT
IN A ROUNDTABLE A COUPLE MONTHS
AGO, SO I HAVE TO GO BACK AND
CHECK, BUT IT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE
LOOKING AT SETTING UP OR
SUPPORTING JURISDICTIONS, HOURS
WOULD GO THROUGH KING COUNTY,
BUT WITH STATE MONEY, TO SET UP
CRISIS LINES FOR US TO CALL IF
WE SEE SOMEBODY IN CRISIS.
AND I BELIEVE IT IS CRISIS
CONNECTIONS THAT WILL BE DOING
THAT WORK.
THEY TAKE THOSE CALLS NOW,
TODAY.
AGAIN, NOT JUST FOR SOMEBODY
WHO IS IN CRISIS THEMSELVES,
BUT FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS LOOKING
TO HELP SOMEBODY IN CRISIS.
SO, I WOULD JUST ASK, OBVIOUSLY
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD
WANT US TO DO BUT BEFORE WE GO
DOWN THE ROAD OF FUNDING A
STUDY, I WOULD REALLY WANT TO
HAVE A SUPER CLEAR
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS BEING
FUNDED WITH THE STATE FUNDING,
AND WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR KING
COUNTY WITH CRISIS CONNECTIONS.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
I SEE AMY FROM CENTRAL STAFF,
WELCOME BACK AGAIN.
>> I WANT TO MENTION, TO BUILD
ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
SAID, I WENT BACK AND I READ
THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION AND I
THINK THAT ONE OF THE
CHALLENGES WE ARE HAVING HERE
IS NOT AMBIGUITY, BUT IT IS
KIND OF A GAP BETWEEN WHAT THE
ACTUAL LEGISLATION SAYS AND
WHAT THE IMPLEMENTATION WILL
LOOK LIKE.
AND EXACTLY WHAT THE PARAMETERS
OF THE, LOOK LIKE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT, I BELIEVE
THIS IS ON THE KING COUNTY SIDE
AND STATESIDE, AND THAT THEY
HAVE SOME STAKEHOLDER GROUPS
AND SOME COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT
ARE WORKING ON FIGURING OUT
THOSE DETAILS.
WE WILL TRY TO CONNECT BACK IN
WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE
RIGHT NOW AS THEY DEVELOP THESE
PROGRAM DETAILS AND MENTATION
BEFORE NEXT YEAR.
>> OKAY.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SORRY.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION.
THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW,
IF IT IS INTENDED FOR PEOPLE
WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HEALTH
AND SAFETY OF A SITUATION AS
WELL.
I APPRECIATE YOU AMY, AND ANN.
YOUR JOINT WORK ON THE EFFORT.
AND, PERHAPS WE NEED TO HAVE
SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
THIS COLLEAGUES, AS WE FIGURE
OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS HERE
AND THE OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED.
AGAIN I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS
ARE TRAINED TO CALL 911, IF
THEY STILL PICK UP THE PHONE AND
DIALED 911 WHEN THEY SEE FOLKS
IN CRISIS.
I THINK THERE STILL WANTS TO BE
THAT DEPLOYMENT OF THE TRIAGE
SYSTEM UNDER WAYBRIGHT NOW, SO
THE RIGHT PERSON SHOWS UP FOR
THE SITUATION THAT IS BEING
REPORTED.
AND GIVEN HOW MANY PEOPLE JUST
INTUITIVELY CALL 911, VERSUS
HAVING TO BE RETRAINED ON A
DIFFERENT NUMBER, PERHAPS THERE
IS A WAY TO FIGURE OUT THE
RIGHT SYSTEM BEHIND-THE-SCENES.
I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS
ABOUT A HERE AND AT THIS POINT
WOULD LOVE TO CHAT MORE ABOUT
YOU ALL ABOUT THE WAYS IN WHICH
WE CAN GET 911 SYSTEM AND TRIAGE
THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING
ON, AND COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD
HAVE BEEN LEADING ON, TO GET
THAT DEPLOYED TO THE RIGHT
PERSON SHOWS UP.
JUST SIGNALING INTEREST IN
KNOWING MORE HOW THAT IS COMING
ALONG AND HOW QUICKLY THAT CAN
BE DEPLOYED, VERSUS SETTING UP
COMPLETELY NEW NUMBER.
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
LET'S MOVE ON.
>> NEXT SLI, PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
THIS ISSUE CONCERNS THE
PROPOSAL FOR THE NEW TRIAGE ONE
TEAM.
AS I NOTED, THERE IS SOME
OVERLAP BETWEEN THE PROPOSED
NEW PROGRAM, AND THE EXISTING
PROGRAM.
WE ALSO TALKED WITH SFD ABOUT
IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE FOR
PROPOSED NEW PROGRAM AND THEY
DON'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE
ABLE TO STAND IT UP UNTIL QUITE
LATE IN 2022.
THE PROPOSAL REQUESTS 2.5
MILLION OF GENERAL FUND
RESOURCES BUT A LOT OF THAT IS
STAFF COST AND WOULD NOT BE
EXPANDED IN 2022.
THE PROPOSAL ALSO CONTEMPLATES
MOVING SOME BODIES OF WORK FROM
SPD TO SFD BUT SPD HAS NOT YET
REACHED THE CONCLUSION THAT
THIS IS FEASIBLE AND IF AND
WHEN THEY DO, IT WILL BE
SUBJECT TO BARGAINING.
SO ACKNOWLEDGING SOME
CONSTRAINTS, WE HAVE PREPARED A
COUPLE OPTIONS ABOUT THE NEW
PROPOSED MOBILE INTEGRATED
HEALTH UNIT.
THE FUNDING COULD BE
REALLOCATED TO A CONTRACTED
MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH
PROGRAM.
WE COULD ESTABLISH A NEW MENTAL
AND BEHAVIORAL CRISIS RESPONSE
UNIT, IN THE CSC C, RATHER THAN
SFD.
BECAUSE THERE WOULD NOT BE A
NEED FOR MEDICAL ASSISTANCE FOR
THE CALLS.
WE COULD JUST THE PARAMETERS OF
THE HEALTHONE OR TRIAGE
PROGRAMS TO ALIGN WITH THE
PROGRAMS AND GOALS FOR 911
DISPATCH OR TAKE NO ACTION.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THE PROPOSED UNIT IS NOT
DIFFERENT FROM THE EXISTING
PROGRAM.
WE TALKED EARLIER IN THIS
PRESENTATION ABOUT HOW THE
CALLS AT TRIAGE ONE IS
PROPOSING TO TAKE NOT CALLS
THAT HEALTHONE TAKES.
THERE
>>>
>>> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING
AGAIN THAT TRIAGE ONE IS ONLY
PROPOSING AT THIS STAGE, TWO
CALL TYPES.
AND THEY ARE NOT CALL TYPES
THAT HEALTHONE TAKES.
SO REALLY, I WOULD LOVE TO
LEARN MORE.
>> THANK YOU.
I SEE COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS'S
HAND.
GO AHEAD.
I APPRECIATE HOW THESE, I DON'T
THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE
ANYTHING WRONG WITH 2022 BEING
THE YEAR WHERE WE TRY MULTIPLE
DIFFERENT WAYS TO DEPLOY THE
TEAMS, MONITORED THE IMPACTS,
AND MAKE DECISIONS IN 2023, ON
WHAT WE WANT TO SCALE UP OR
DOWN.
I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE
A COMBINATION OF A, AND B, IN
THE SENSE THAT WE MAY, MAYBE
FOND -- FUND FOR SIMILAR CALL
TYPES.
AND MAYBE THERE IS A DECISION
TO DIVIDE RESPONSE AREAS
GEOGRAPHICALLY.
OR MAYBE MIX-AND-MATCH WITH
RESPONSE TYPES.
I THINK WE HAVE SEEN FROM
DIFFERENT CITIES THERE ARE
CERTAIN INHERITED ADVANTAGES.
DEPLOYING THESE THROUGH A
PROVIDER, HAVING THE SERVICE BE
INFUSED WITH A LOT OF THE
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM, WITH
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, I
THINK THERE IS, LIKE THAT IS
ATTRACTIVE.
I UNDERSTAND FOR A LOT OF
REASONS, THE PREFERENCE OF THE
EXECUTIVE, TO ESTABLISH A NEW
TEAM WITHIN ONE OF OUR LEGACY
EMERGENCY RESPONSE DEPARTMENTS.
>> I HAD NOT REALLY THOUGHT
ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
MAYBE CENTRAL STAFF CAN EXPAND
A LITTLE BIT ON WHETHER GIVING
MONEY TO HSD, FOR EXAMPLE, TO
BID SOME KIND OF FIRST RESPONSE
HARDWIRED INTO 911 MIGHT ALLOW
THAT TO BE STOOD UP QUICKER OR
MAYBE I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT.
THE LAST THING I WOULD JUST SAY
IS AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE TO
MAKE IT SIMPLE IS SOME SERVICE
THAT IS COMPOSED OF AN EMT AND
A MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN IN A
VAN EQUIPPED TO RESPOND TO LOW
ACUITY SITUATIONS THAT CURRENTLY
PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING ANY KIND
OF SERVICE RESPONSE FOR BE IT A
PERSON IN DISTRESS OR BE IT A
SMALL BUSINESS OWNER WHO IS
ESSENTIALLY HAPPY TO DEAL WITH
THAT ON THEIR OWN IN TERMS OF
TRYING TO DE-ESCALATE A PERSON
OR MEET A PERSON'S NEEDS
BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT SENDING
ANYBODY OUT TO FUNCTIONALLY DO
ANYTHING OR ASSIST WITH THAT
SITUATION.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
WHENEVER WE ARE ENVISIONING
THIS THAT WE ARE REALLY
THINKING THAT REGARDLESS OF HOW
IT'S COMPOSED, IT'S BASICALLY
GOING TO BE THE SAME,
FUNDAMENTAL PERSONNEL DEPLOYED
THROUGH A VAN AS WE'VE SEEN IN
MULTIPLE OTHER CITIES AND I
JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT GROUNDED
AS WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEPLOY
IT BECAUSE I WORRY THAT WE
INADVERTENTLY COULD MAKE
SOMETHING COMPLICATED THAT
COULD BE FAIRLY SIMPLE IN TERMS
OF THE TEAM COMPOSITION AND
JUST FIGURING OUT THE WAY TO
GET IT UP AND GET IT OUT TO
MEET THE VERY REAL NEED WE SEE
RIGHT NOW.
>> COUNCIL MEMBER HERBOLD.
>> AS A POINT OF URGENCY I
THINK, AGAIN, SOME CONTEXT
SETTING. I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE
THAT THERE HAVE BEEN, HAS BEEN
WORK FOR MANY YEARS TO HAVE
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE WHEN THE
MENTAL HEALTH UNIT WAS FIRST
STOOD UP AND HEALTHONE WAS
DEVELOPED, THIS IS WORK THAT
PREDATES THE RACIAL RECKONING
IN THE WAKE OF GEORGE FLOYD'S
MURDER.
BUT WHEN THIS ENTIRE COUNSEL
BEGAN ENGAGING EVEN MORE IN
EARNEST IN THIS ISSUE, WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT RAMPING UP AN
ALTERNATIVE WITH THE IDEA IN
MIND THAT WE HAD, AT THE SAME
POINT THAT WE WERE PROVIDING
THE FUNDING AND THE
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PLANNING FOR
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE OVER THE
COURSE OF 2021, WE HAD THAT FALL
APPROVED A BUDGET FOR 1343
OFFICERS. THIS COUNSEL DID NOT
VOTE TO SUPPORT A HIRING FREEZE
IN 2021.
AND SO WE TAKE A LOT OF
CRITICISM FOR NOT HAVING THIS
THING BUILT YET. BUT WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT BUILDING
SOMETHING AT THAT POINT TO
DIVERT A RELATIVELY SMALL
NUMBER OF CALLS AND THAT WE
WOULD BUILD THE SYSTEM, WE
WOULD REDUCE FUNDING FOR
TRADITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AS
WE WERE BUILDING THE SYSTEM AND
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A SYSTEM
THAT WOULD TAKE OVER A SMALL
NUMBER OF CALLS FROM A FAIRLY
SMALL NUMBER OF REDUCED
OFFICERS AND I AM VERY
FRUSTRATED AND I THINK WE ARE
ALL VERY FRUSTRATED THAT WITH
SO MANY POLICE OFFICERS USING
-- LEAVING THE DEPARTMENT THIS
YEAR HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH
OUR BUDGET ACTIONS, PEOPLE ARE
NOW ASKING US WHY AREN'T MORE
ALTERNATIVES SET UP?
AND I'M VERY FRUSTRATED HAVING
WORKED ON THIS OVER THE COURSE
OF THE YEAR WITH THE EXECUTIVE
THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING IN
THIS BUDGET. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF
THE TRIAGE ONE UNIT BUT I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE MORE.
THAT TRIAGE ONE UNIT IS, I
BELIEVE, 4000 CALLS.
AND THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE.
THIS IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT
WE HAVE THE RIGHT RESPONSE.
DON'T GET UP POLICE RESPONSE
WHEN THEY DON'T NEED ONE BUT
IT'S ALSO ABOUT MAKING SURE IN
THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THE ONLY
RESPONSE IS A POLICE RESPONSE
AND THAT OFFICERS ARE ABLE TO
RESPOND TO THOSE CALLS.
AND AT THIS POINT, AS WE WILL
TALK MORE THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT
911 RESPONSE TIMES, THERE ARE
SOME REAL ISSUES THERE.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO IN THIS
BUDGET CYCLE PUT OUR HEADS
TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO
DO SOMETHING MORE QUICKLY,
BRING IT ONLINE EARLY NEXT
YEAR.
>> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD.
AND I THINK PUTTING INTO
CONTEXT THE STATISTICS THAT YOU
IN CENTRAL STAFF CONTINUE TO
RAISE THAT THE NICK JR. REPORT
AND USING SPD DATA ALONE SHOWS
AT SOME POINT THAT 80% OF THE
CALLS ARE NOT CRIMINAL IN
NATURE AND AT SOME POINT IN THE
NEAR FUTURE, 49% OF THOSE CALLS
SHOULD BE TRANSITIONED TO AN
ALTERNATE RESPONSE AND IN THIS
MOMENT RIGHT NOW, 12% OF THOSE
CALLS COULD BE HANDLED BY A
DIFFERENT ENTITY TODAY.
WITH THOSE STATISTICS, THE CALL
FOR URGENCY IS EVERMORE
IMPORTANT AND I APPRECIATE YOU
EXPRESSING YOUR FRUSTRATION THAT
THIS IS NOT TIME TO NIBBLE
AROUND THE EDGES WHEN WE HAVE
AN INCREDIBLE NEED FOR THE
RIGHT PERSON TO SHOW UP AT THE
RIGHT TIME.
WE SPENT THE LAST TWO YEARS
TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT'S NOT
ONLY A GOOD THING FOR THE
HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THOSE WHO
ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE
POTENTIALLY BASED WITH A MENTAL
HEALTH CALL AND IT'S GOOD FOR
OFFICERS AS WELL TO FREE THEM
UP TO SHOW UP TO WHAT THEY
SHOULD BE DOING AS POLICE
OFFICERS THAT ARE NOT MENTAL
HEALTH, CASE MANAGEMENT OR
HOUSING CONNECTOR CALLS AND I
APPRECIATE YOU PUT THAT IN YOUR
CENTRAL STAFF PRESENTATION.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.
>> REALLY BRIEFLY.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH
EVERYTHING COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD SAID AND SHARE HER
FRUSTRATION.
I'M SURE ALL OF US DO.
I THINK THAT ALL THE
CONSIDERATIONS COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD PUT OUT AROUND URGENCY
ARE GOOD ARGUMENTS FOR PURSUING
MULTIPLE RESPONSE THEORIES AT
THE SAME TIME IN THE NEXT BUDGET
AND POTENTILLY THROUGH
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
I THINK THAT HAVING AN HSD
PROVIDER-BASED RESPONSE THAT IS
PITTED THROUGH HSD AND THEN
HAVING A TRIAGE TEAM IN THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT AND MONITORING
BOTH OF THEM AND SEEING HOW THE
CALLS CAN BE MIXED AND MATCHED
AND HOW THEY COVER DIFFERENT
GEOGRAPHIC AREAS IS A GOOD WAY
TO START GETTING SOME STUFF OUT
INTO THE WORLD SO THAT WE CAN
START ACTUALLY SEEING HOW THESE
THINGS CAN WORK IN PRACTICE
INSTEAD OF JUST THEORY AND THEN
BASED ON THOSE LESSONS, SCALING
THINGS UP.
I DO THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
I'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT OVER
THE LAST YEAR IS THERE HAS
BEEN, SORT OF, THERE HAS BEEN
AN EFFORT TO NOT DO ANYTHING
UNTIL THE PERFECT RESPONSE CAN
BE DEVELOPED, TO A CERTAIN
EXTENT.
AND I THINK A LOT OF THE CITIES
THAT HAVE BUILT RESPONSES LIKE
STAR OR CAHOOTS, THEY WERE
BUILT INCREMENTALLY THROUGH
EXPERIMENTATION AND THROUGH
PLUG AND PLAY AND SEEING WHAT
WORKS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY DID NOT JUST COME UP WITH
THE PERFECT PROGRAM AND DROP IT
DOWN OUT OF THE SKY.
SO, I THINK PART OF IT IS JUST
GETTING SOME RUBBER ON THE ROAD
AND SEEING HOW THESE THINGS CAN
WORK AND SO IF WE CAN DO THAT
WITH A COUPLE PROGRAMS AND A
COUPLE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, I
THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY
TO DO IT.
MONITOR THE RESULTS AND THEN
SCALE THINGS UP ACCORDINGLY
ONCE WE HAVE MORE DATA.
>> THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES.
ONE MORE THING ON THE SLIDE AND
THEN WE WILL MOVE ON.
I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES
INCLUDE THE ALTERNATIVE FIRST
RESPONDERS WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE
FRONTLINE. VERY MUCH APPRECIATE
OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR CASE
MANAGERS WHO ARE PART OF HEALTH
1. WE'VE TAKEN THE PROGRAM FROM
1 TO 3 AND HOPEFULLY IN THIS
QUARTER WE WILL SEE THE THIRD
FAN FROM HEALTHONE COME ONLINE
AND WE HAVE BEEN RESPECTFUL OF
THEM SAYING WE NEED TIME TO
MAKE SURE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL
IN OTHER AREAS AND I LIKE TO
SEE IT IN THE FIVE LETTER AREAS
QUICKLY BROUGHT ONLINE WHEN
THERE IS CAPACITY TO DO THAT.
AND I'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS AT
HEALTHONE, THE FIREFIGHTERS,
SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT, CASE
MANAGERS, THAT THERE IS A NEED
FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THE SCALE
AT WHICH HEALTHONE IS OPERATING
IN A CITY AS BIG OF SEATTLE
COMPARABLY TO OTHER CITIES THAT
WE LOOK AT.
THEY ARE DOING A TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IS ON PAR
IF NOT EVEN BIGGER THAN WHAT
SOME OF THE BIGGER CASE THAT IS
WE REFERENCE OFTEN ARE DOING.
SO HOW WE COULD HELP STABILIZE
THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE
THE RESOURCES THEY NEED NOW AND
EXPAND THAT IS SOMETHING I'M
INTERESTED IN BECAUSE THEY DO
HAVE A TESTED AND TRUE MODEL.
AND THAT SAID, THEY CAN'T BE AT
EVERY ONE OF THESE PLACES AND
THEY NEED A PLACE TO HAND IT
OFF TO.
MAYBE IT'S THAT LAYERING OF
WHERE THE LANDING PLACE IS,
WHERE THAT ORGANIZATION IS THAT
TAKES THE HAND OFF IS EQUALLY
AS IMPORTANT AS CREATING THAT
INITIAL FIRST RESPONDER TOUCH
POINT.
>> OKAY.
YOU SPARKED A LOT OF
CONVERSATION.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, LISA, IS
THERE ANYTHING YOU LIKE TO ADD
ON THIS?
>> JUST TEEING UP FOR SLIDE 10.
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND
THAT WAS A GREAT INTRODUCTION.
>> I'M WITH CENTRAL STAFF THAT
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT TWO
SLIDES YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU
THAT WILL SHOW FLESH OUT AND
WEED OUT SOME OF THE CONCEPTS
YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSING
TO SHOW SOME ADDITIONAL POLICY
OPTIONS.
SLIDE 10 SHOWS THREE FUNCTIONS
THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ADDED
TO THE COMMUNITY SAFETY
COMMUNICATION CENTER.
THE FIRST ONE YOU'VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT AND THAT IS
TRIAGE ONE.
AS YOU'VE HEARD DISCUSSIONS ARE
ONGOING AS TO WHETHER THEY
SHOULD BE HOUSED IN THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT OR THE COMMUNITY
SAFETY AND COMMUNICATION
CENTER.
ONE OF THE KEY FACTORS IN THAT
DECISION IS WHETHER THE
FIREFIGHTERS WOULD BE PART OF
THE TRIAGE ONE RESPONSE OR IF
THE UNIT, THIS UNIT WOULD BE
FULLY STAFFED BY CIVILIANS.
SECOND POTENTIAL FUNCTION
WOULD BE TO MOVE THE COMMUNITY
SERVICE OFFICERS UNIT OUT OF
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND INTO
THE SEE US CC.
AS DESCRIBED IN THE SETH MEMO,
CSO'S ARE CURRENTLY A CIVILIAN
UNIT WITHIN THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
THAT GROUP COULD POTENTIALLY
RESPOND TO SEVERAL TYPES OF
CALLS FLAGGED BY THE GENERAL
REPORT DOES NOT REQUIRE A
POLICE RESPONSE.
AND A THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO
CREATE A SPECIAL UNIT TO
PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSE
TO SOME TYPES OF THESE WOMAN
CALLS.
THE NICK JR. REPORT DID NOTE
THAT ADMINISTERED RESPONDERS
COULD RESPOND TO NUMEROUS CALLS
WHICH COULD INCLUDE THINGS THAT
AND MENTIONED ABOUT CREATING
ACCESS TO INCIDENTS WITHOUT
INJURIES ARE PRODUCING REPORTS.
ONE POTENTIAL STEP TO IMPLEMENT
THIS COULD BE FUNDING A PILOT
PROJECT AT THE CSCC USING
CIVILIAN , ADMINISTRATIVE
RESPONDERS.
AGAIN, I WOULD NOTE THERE IS A
SENSE OF URGENCY TO GET THIS
STOOD UP MOVING THESE FUNCTIONS
INTO THE CSCC WOULD REQUIRE A
FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TO DEVELOP
THEM BUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE
CAPACITY TO RUN THESE PROGRAMS
AND POTENTIALLY TO UPDATE THE
DISPATCH PROTOCOLS TO MAKE SURE
ALL THE DISPATCH ENTITIES ARE
INTEGRATED AND THE TECHNOLOGY
THAT SUPPORTS DISPATCH IS SET
UP PROPERLY.
ALSO, SOME OF THESE CHANGES
COULD BE SUBJECT TO BARGAINING
AND SOME I ALSO BENEFITED FROM
THE WRITTEN AGREEMENTS TO PUT
TOGETHER THE ROLES AND
RESPONSIBILITIES BETWEEN THE
DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
CSCC, FIRE, PLEASE, HUMAN
SOURCES AND COMMUNITY
PROVIDERS.
WITH THAT I WILL PAUSE. TAKE NO
ACTION ON IT ADDING ADDITIONAL
FUNCTIONS.
BEFORE I GO TO SLIDE 11 I WANT
TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY
QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU.
I WANT TO TAKE THE HANDS IN
WHICH THEY CAME.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE
BEEN EXPOSED TO THIS
ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONDER
CONCEPT.
WOULD THAT BASICALLY BE
SOMETHING WHERE SOMEONE COMES
OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND TAKES
A REPORT INSTEAD OF A SWORN
OFFICER?
SO IF I WAKE UP IN THE MORNING
AND THE CAR, IF I HAD A CAR,
BUT IF I HAD A CAR, THE WINDOW
TO MY CAR WAS BROKEN AND A CALL
IN A VEHICLE PROWL. AND INSTEAD
OF AN OFFICER COMING,
ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONDER COMES,
TAKES THE REPORT DOWN.
TAKES PICTURES OF MY DAMAGED CAR
AND IF SOMETHING EVER COMES OF
IT IN THE FUTURE, ANOTHER IS A
REPORT AND I DON'T HAVE TO DO
THE REPORT ONLINE BECAUSE THERE
IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONDER.
IS THAT THE CONCEPT OF WHAT
THAT WOULD BE?
>> I COULD NOT TELL YOU THE
EXACT LOGISTICS ABOUT HOW THAT
WOULD PLAY OUT.
I KNOW THAT I'VE WOKEN UP AND
HAD MY CAR MISSING BEFORE AND
SOMETIMES YOU WILL GET A POLICE
RESPONSE AND SOMETIMES YOU
WOULD JUST TALK TO SOMEBODY ON
THE PHONE.
BUT SOMEBODY IN THE DEPARTMENT
WOULD FILL OUT YOUR REPORT.
IT WOULD TAKE YOUR INFORMATION.
FILE THE REPORT.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU ASK FOR
INSURANCE COVERAGE YOU HAVE TO
HAVE A POLICE REPORT NUMBER SO
THAT WORK WOULD BE DONE
ADMINISTRATIVELY AND DOES NOT
NEED TO BE DONE BY A SWORN
OFFICER ACCORDING TO THE REPORT.
SO, IT'S LIKELY THIS SCENARIO
YOU PLAYED OUT COULD BE, COULD
HAPPEN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IN PERSON
CONVERSATION WOULD BE INVOLVED.
>> BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF THING
THIS JOB WOULD DO.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
>> YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
AND PRESUMABLY IT'S ENVISIONED
AS AN UNARMED SERVICE?
>> YES.
FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU HAD THE
CSO'S DO THIS, WISHER HAS BEEN
SOME CONVERSATION OF DOING,
THAT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS COULD
POTENTIALLY DO IT OR SOME OTHER
UNIT, IT WOULD NOT BE AS WHEN
OFFICERS.
>> ONE THING I WOULD FLAG HERE
THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR
CENTRAL STAFF AND MAYBE FOR THE
EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS IS UNDER
THE RETAIL THEFT PROGRAM LOSS
PREVENTION OFFICERS COMPLETE
POLICE REPORTS WHICH OBVIOUSLY
ARE NOT SWORN PERSONNEL AND ARE
NOT POLICE.
SO, I RAISE THAT BECAUSE
THERE'S POTENTIAL BARGAINING OR
LABOR ISSUES THAT MUST'VE BEEN
ENVISIONED BUT, WHEN WE DID THE
LOSS PREVENTION PROGRAM BECAUSE
THOSE ARE PEOPLE DOING REPORTS
THAT AREN'T POLICE AND I DON'T
KNOW HOW THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
THIS SEEMS TO TOUCH ON SIMILAR
ISSUES.
I WOULD ALSO JUST FLAG FROM A
CUSTOMER SERVICE LEVEL AT THE
CITY, ONE THING I HEAR A LOT OF
FRUSTRATION ABOUT IS THAT
PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE GOING
THROUGH THE BYZANTINE, ONLINE
RECORDING THING OR DON'T FEEL
LIKE THE CITY REALLY CARES
ABOUT WHEN THEY DO HAVE A
PACKAGE STOLEN OR WHEN THEIR
CAR IS PROWLED BECAUSE NO ONE
COMES OUT AND TAKES A REPORT
IT.
SO, I THINK FROM A CUSTOMER
SERVICE LEVEL, IT IS GOOD TO
HAVE SOME KIND OF SERVICE LIKE
THIS THAT COULD BE PROVIDED AND
JUST FLAGGING MY INTEREST IN
PURSUING IT AND DOING IT IN A
WAY THAT OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT
INVOLVE AN ARMED SWORN OFFICER.
>> IF I COULD.
THE THEFT LOSS PREVENTION
PROGRAM, WE DID HAVE A FAIR
AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
THERE IS A POLICE INVOLVEMENT
AND THEY ARE ON THE RECEIVING
END OF THOSE REPORTS THAT ARE
FILED BY THE PREVENTION
OFFICERS.
>> BUT THEY WOULD BE ON THE
RECEIVING END OF THESE REPORTS
TOO, RIGHT?
I THINK IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY THE
SAME EXCHANGE.
>> AGAIN, THAT'S WHY IT TAKES A
LITTLE WHILE TO STAND THESE
PROGRAMS UP BECAUSE THERE ARE A
LOT OF NUTS AND BOLTS TO FIGURE
OUT ABOUT HOW IT WOULD ACTUALLY
PLAY OUT.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> THANK YOU.
AS IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO
OPTION B. I WANT TO REMIND
EVERYBODY THAT AS PART OF THE
SECOND QUARTER SUPPLEMENTAL, OR
THE MIDYEAR SUPPLEMENTAL NOW,
WE PARKED THE 2021 FUNDING FOR
THE TRIAGE TEAM IN FAS PENDING
A REPORT ON THE PROGRAM FOR
TRIAGE TEAM.
I SEE THIS AS POTENTIALLY
NEEDING SOME ALIGNMENT BECAUSE
THIS PROPOSES THAT WE TELL THE
EXECUTIVE WHAT OUR VISION IS
FOR IT AND WE HAVE JUST
RECENTLY ASKED THEM TO TELL US
THEIR VISION AND WE ARE HOLDING
ONTO THE MONEY UNTIL WE GET
THAT INFORMATION.
AND THEN IN ANN'S COMMENTS
EARLIER WHEN SHE WAS TALKING
ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TIME IT IS
LIKELY TO TAKE TO STAND UP THIS
INITIAL, SMALL TRIAGE TEAM, IT
SOUNDED LIKE SHE WAS SAYING
PRETTY FAR INTO 2022 AND I'M
WONDERING, IS THAT IRRESPECTIVE
OF WHETHER OR NOT IT STAYS IN
FIRE OR GOES TO CSCC.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT
MIGHT TAKE A WHILE IF WE
INSISTED ON MOVING TRIAGE ONE
INTO CSCC BECAUSE OF SOME OF
THE HUMAN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
HR ISSUES, THAT THEY ARE
MANAGING RIGHT NOW WITH BEING A
NEW DIVISION. THE TIMELINE FOR
A TRIAGE ONE BEING LAUNCHED OUT
OF FIRE WOULD BE A SHORTER
TIMELINE AND THE IDEA FOR AN
MOU, I THINK IS ABOUT, YES, THE
LONG-TERM VISION FOR TRIAGE
ONE.
MAYBE NOT SO MUCH THE SHORT-
TERM BECAUSE I THINK IN THE
SHORT TERM IT'S, LIKE, LET'S
MAKE SURE WE ARE AGREEING WHERE
WERE STARTING AND LET'S GET IT
LAUNCHED AND THEN LET'S HAVE AN
MOU FOR WHAT THE LONG-TERM
VISION IS.
THAT SORT OF WHAT I'M SEEING
BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW
FROM ANN WHETHER OR NOT SHE IS
HEARING THAT WE ARE -- THAT IT
DOESN'T MATTER WHERE TRIAGE ONE
IS LAUNCHED OUT OF.
YOU ARE HEARING FROM THE
EXECUTIVE WE WILL NOT SEE UNTIL
LATE IN 2022.
>> YES.
JUST TO CONFIRM THE TIMELINE
THAT SFD PREPARED FOR THE
PROGRAM TO LAUNCH FROM THAT
DEPARTMENT HAS IT FULLY
IMPLEMENTED, AS AND THEY ARE
STAFFED UP.
PEOPLE ARE TRAINED.
THEY'RE GOING OUT ONTO THE
STREETS IN DECEMBER 2022.
WE HAVE HEARD FROM THEM THAT IF
THE PROGRAM WERE LAUNCHED OUT
OF THE CSCC, IT WOULD TAKE
LONGER THAN THAT.
BUT I HAVE NOT FOLLOWED UP ON
SPECIFICALLY HOW MUCH LONGER
WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT IF
IT'S OF INTEREST.
>> BEGS THE QUESTION WHY THERE
WAS SUCH AN URGENT PRESS
RELEASE AND PRESS CONFERENCE
HELD ON IT IN MID-2021 IF 2022
END OF THE YEAR IS THE ACTUAL
LAUNCH POINT.
I THINK THAT WE VERY MUCH WOULD
LIKE TO SEE HOW FAST WE CAN MOVE
SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS
ALONG AND I'M SURPRISED BY THAT
TIMELINE AND COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD, YOU AND I ARE
ANTICIPATING SOMETHING MUCH
QUICKER THAN THAT.
I SEE YOU ON THE LINE.
WELCOME. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING
ELSE TO ADD?
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO.
>> THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO WEIGH IN OR ADD IN
IF NECESSARY.
YOU ALREADY SAID IT BUT SINCE
ANN WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME, I
THINK THE STORY IS UNFOLDING
AND I WANTED TO AFFIRM WHAT
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WAS
COMMUNICATING IS WHAT WE
UNDERSTOOD IN JULY AND AUGUST
WHEN THE COUNCIL WAS
CONSIDERING THE SUPPLEMENTAL
BUDGET ASK . STORY HAS EVOLVED
A BIT IN TIMES OF THE TIMING.
>> THAT'S INTERESTING.
WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND
TO THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE
HAVE HAD WITH FIRST RESPONDERS
FROM FIRE, AS WELL, ANOTHER WAS
A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THAT
PROGRAM BEING STOOD UP WITHOUT
CONVERSATIONS FROM FRONTLINE
MEMBERS FROM AAF 27.
THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO
TALK TO FIREFIGHTERS THEMSELVES
TO SEE HOW THOSE CONVERSATIONS
ARE PROGRESSING.
APPRECIATE THE SENSE OF URGENCY
THAT WE ALL HAVE.
TRYING TO GET SOMETHING SET UP
BUT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY HELP TO
HAVE A PRESS RELEASE IN JULY
THAT THEN IS NOT FOR A PROGRAM
THAT'S POTENTIALLY GOING TO
LAUNCH UNTIL DECEMBER 2022.
TO THE POINT OF OUR COLLEAGUES
EARLIER, I THINK THERE IS A LOT
TO BE POTENTIALLY DONE IN THIS
BUDGET TO TRY TO PROVIDE
SWIFTER ACTION AND TRUE
ALTERNATIVES.
LET'S CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH
THIS.
I WILL TRY TO SEE HOW FAR WE
CAN GET IN THE NEXT 20 MINUTES.
WE DO HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS ON
THIS SECTION AND THEN THREE
MORE ISSUE IDENTIFICATION
PIECES.
IF WE DON'T GET THROUGH THEM
ALL, I DO NEED TO HAVE A HARD
STOP AT 1:00 SO WE CAN GIVE
FOLKS A FULL HOUR FOR A MEAL
BREAK AND THEN WE WILL RESUME
AT 2:00 WITH ANYTHING WE
HAVEN'T COVERED.
LET'S SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN GET
DONE IN THE NEXT 20 MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU.
I WILL QUICKLY GO OVER SLIDE 11
AND THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO THE
NEXT HALF OF THE PAPER.
ISSUE NUMBER 4 IS A RESPONSE TO
LOW-LEVEL CRIMINAL 911 CALLS.
SO AS GREG MENTIONED AND ANN
MENTION, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
IS USING A RISK-BASED ANALYSIS
OF THE SERVICES.
THEY CAN BE HANDLED BY SEVERELY
-- WITH MINIMAL RISK AS A
FOLLOW-UP AND YOU CAN SEE IN
THE STAFF REPORT IN THE APPENDIX
X ON PAGE 26, YOU WILL SEE A
LIST OF THE CALL TYPES INCLUDED
IN THE SPD ANALYSIS.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD ADDED THE
POICE REPORTS ANTICIPATED TO
BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF Q1
2022.
SO THAT INFORMATION CAME OUT
AFTER THESE OPTIONS WERE
PRODUCED BUT OPTION ONE THEN
WOULD BE TO CREATE A SIMILAR
LEGISLATIVE INTENT ASKING FOR A
REPORT ON THAT RISK ANALYSIS BY
A SPECIFIC DATE AND NOW WE NOTE
THAT DATE IS AND OF Q1.
WE COULD ASK FOR THAT REPORT BY
THAT DATE.
OPTION TWO WOULD INSTEAD ADD
FTD AND FUNDING TO ESTABLISH A
UNIT IN THE CSCC TO PROVIDE
CIVILIAN RESPONSE TO 911 CALLS.
AND THAT OVERLAPS WITH SOME OF
THE OTHER DISCUSSION YOU
PREVIOUSLY HAD.
>> OKAY.
WONDERFUL.
COLLEAGUES, ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS RESPONSES
TO THIS ONE?
NOT SEEING ANYONE.
I'D BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING
MORE ABOUT OPTION A WITH
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE AND LOOK FORWARD TO
COORDINATING WITH THE CHAIR AND
OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS TO SEE
WHAT YOUR RESPONSES WOULD BE.
>> I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT WE
ARE INTERESTED IN SWIFT ACTION
ON THE ITEMS THAT COULD BE
MOVED OVER QUICKLY.
>> I WOULD THEN TURN IT BACK TO
INTRODUCE THE SECTION OF THE
PAPER ADDRESSING THE
ALTERNATIVES TO PROSECUTION AND
JAIL IF THAT MEETS YOUR NEEDS,
COUNCIL CHAIR?
>> THANK YOU.
AS YOU MENTIONED I WILL BE
TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVES TO
PROSECUTION JAIL IN THE CONTEXT
OF THE 2022 PROPOSED BUDGET WE
ARE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT TWO
THINGS.
PREFILING DIVERSION AND AT
SUBSIDIES FOR ELECTRONIC HOME
MONITORING.
I WILL START TALKING ABOUT
PREFILING DIVERSION AND THEN
MOVE INTO BHM.
CURRENTLY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE DOES WHAT A PREFILING
DIVERSION PROGRAM THAT WEAVES
TOGETHER THREE DIFFERENT
ELEMENTS.
LOOKING AT INDIVIDUALS ACCUSED
OF COMMITTING LOW-LEVEL
MISDEMEANORS AND AN EXPANDING
OUT TO RELICENSING FOR
INDIVIDUALS ACCUSED OF DRIVING
WHILE THE LICENSE IS SUSPENDED
IN THE 3rd DEGREE.
AND THEN EXPAND IT INTO
DIVERSION FOR INDIVIDUALS
ACCUSED OF NOT INTIMATE PARTNER
OR FAMILY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
IN THE SEATTLE REENTRY GROUP
REPORT WHICH WAS ISSUED IN 2018
THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO
EXPAND THIS CURRENT PREFILING
DIVERSION PROGRAM FOR
INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE 25 AND
OVER AND TO A BROADER SET OF
POTENTIAL MISDEMEANORS THAT
WERE ELIGIBLE FOR DIVERSION.
THE COUNSEL ASKED FOR A
STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT
FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
TO REQUEST THAT LAW EVALUATE
LOOKING AT THE STAFFING AND
RESOURCES IT WOULD TAKE TO
EXPAND THE PROGRAM, AS WELL AS
PROVIDING FUNDING FOR PREFILING
DIVERSION, RACIAL EQUITY
TOOLKIT.
ASSESSING THAT CONCEPT.
AND SO BOTH A CURRENT PREFILING
DIVERSION PROGRAM AND THE
EXPANDED CONCEPT ARE ISSUES
THAT I WON'T RAISE IN A MOMENT.
I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME
ADDITIONAL CONTEXT AS TO
SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY TASK
FORCE ON CRIMINAL/LEGAL SYSTEM
ALIGNMENT AND THE RET.
THOSE CONSIDERATIONS ARE IN
APPENDIX W THAT ARE IN THE PAPER
BUT CONTAIN SIMILAR THEMES
AROUND PRINCIPLES THAT
PREFILING DIVERSION SHOULD
ALIGN WITH TO BE MOST AFFECTED
TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
YOU WILL SEE THOSE ELEMENTS, AS
I SAID, IN APPENDIX W BUT I
WILL MENTION JUST A COUPLE OF
THEM HERE.
SOME OF THEM ARE TO FOCUS ON
DECLINING CHARGES OR
DECRIMINALIZATION RATHER THAN
FOCUSING SOLELY ON DIVERSION.
MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING
AT ROOT CAUSES . WHY PEOPLE
COMMIT MISDEMEANORS, ESPECIALLY
WHEN THEY ARE IN CONSTANT
POVERTY ASKING THAT DIVERSION
BE VOLUNTARY RATHER THAN
COMPLIANCE BASED.
FINDING IT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC
WHEN WE ARE RELYING SOLELY ON
THE DISCRETION OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.
AND ELIMINATING BARRIERS TO
ACCESSING DIVERSION.
ONE OF THE SPECIFIC CONCEPTS
THAT IS RELATED BECAUSE WE ARE
IN BUDGET SEASON IS THAT THE
TEXT OF THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM
SHOULD NOT BE EXPANDED BUT
RATHER THAT FUNDING PROGRAMS
LIKE THIS AND TENDED TO DECREASE
FURTHER INVOLVEMENT WITH THE
SYSTEM SHOULD BE FUNDED WITH
EXISTING FUNDS INTO THE SYSTEM.
IF WE COULD MOVE TO THE NEXT
SLIDE YOU WILL SEE I FLAGGED --
IN TERMS OF FULLY STOPPING THE
EXISTING DIVERSION PROGRAM.
AS IT STANDS IN THE 2022 BUDGET
, THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO ADD
FUNDS TO MAKE SURE THIS PROGRAM
IS FULLY STAFFED.
RIGHT NOW IS STAFFED BY A PART-
TIME PARALEGAL AND TWO
ASSISTANT PROSECUTORS.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD ADD
IN AN ADDITIONAL ALMOST $248,000
AND A STRATEGIC ADVISER, AS
WELL AS MAKING THE PARALEGAL A
FULL-TIME POSITION RATHER THAN
A HALF-TIME POSITION.
IN TERMS OF ISSUES LAID OUT
ALIGNING WITH PRINCIPALS THERE
ARE A COUPLE OPTIONS FOR THE
COUNSEL.
YOU COULD FUND THIS PROPOSED
PROGRAM IN THE BUDGET AND THEN
ADOPT A STATEMENT OF
LEGISLATIVE INTENT ASKING THAT
LAW SUBMIT A PROGRAM TO THE
COUNSEL TALK ABOUT HOW THE
EXISTING PROGRAM ALIGNS WITH
THE PRINCIPLES BOTH IN THE RET
AND IN THE TASK FORCE REPORT
AND RECOMMEND ANY CHANGES THAT
WOULD ALLOW THE PROGRAM WHERE
IT DOESN'T ALIGN TO ALIGN
BETTER WITH FULL
RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE SECOND PIECE IS TO
POTENTIALLY -- THE PROPOSED FUN
AND PROHIBIT EXPENDITURE UNTIL
LAW PROVIDES THAT KIND OF
REPORTING.
OR PROVIDES THE PROPOSED FUNDS
TO MANDATE THAT THE FUNDS COULD
ONLY BE USED TO SUPPORT
PREFILING DIVERSION PROGRAM
THAT DOES ALIGN WITH THE
PRINCIPLES LAID OUT.
OR THE COUNSEL TO TAKE NO
ACTION AND JUST ALLOW THE
FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD.
REGARDING THE FUNDING SOURCE
THERE ARE A COUPLE OPTIONS LAID
OUT HERE.
AND FOR THIS FIRST OPTION A YOU
CAN CUT THE FUNDS FROM THE
BUDGET AND NOT ADD STAFF AT ALL
IF YOU WANTED TO USE THOSE
FUNDS FOR OTHER COUNSEL
PRIORITIES.
OPTION B IS TO CUT THE GENERAL
FUND ALLOCATION AND REPLACE IT
WITH EXISTING FUNDS AND STAFF
FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
OTHER PLACES AND L.A.W.'S
CRIMINAL DIVISION OR THE
SEATTLE MUNICIPAL COURT AND I
WANTED TO PROVIDE MORE CONTEXT
ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR OPTION.
I'M CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO
FIGURE OUT IF THERE ARE
EXISTING WAYS TO REALLOCATE
FUNDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY WITHIN
THE CRIMINAL DIVISION INTO
PREFILING DIVERSION.
THERE ARE A COUPLE
CONSIDERATIONS THAT RELATE TO
HOW STAFFING WORKS. THE FIRST
IS SOMETHING THAT'S WITHIN THE
COUNSEL'S PURVIEW TO SOME
EXTENT BUT THE NUMBER OF CASES
AND CHARGES THAT COME INTO THE
SYSTEM ARE PREDICATED ON THE
THINGS, BEHAVIORS THAT ARE
CRIMINALIZED AS MISDEMEANORS
WITHIN THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL
CODE.
TO THE EXTENT THAT COUNSEL HAS
THE JURISDICTION TO
DECRIMINALIZE SOME OF THESE
THINGS, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY
CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF
REPORTS AND ARRESTS THAT ARE
COMING INTO THE SYSTEM.
I WILL NOTE THAT THERE ARE
LIMITATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT
COUNSEL CAN DO IN THIS REGARD
BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE CRIMES
THAT ARE LISTED AS MISDEMEANORS
ARE STATE-LEVEL CRIMES AND SO
THE THE TREND -- COUNCIL
DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE
JURISDICTION TO CHANGE AT THE
STATE LEVEL WHAT IS AT THE CITY
COUNCIL.
THE RECENT EXAMPLE IS THE WAYS
IN WHICH THEY COUNCIL
DECRIMINALIZED DRUG AND
PROSTITUTION LOITERING.
SO IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL
CRIMES THAT COULD BE MOVED OUT
OF THE CODE, THAT COULD
POTENTIALLY DECREASE THE NUMBER
OF CASES COMING IN.
THE OTHER ISSUE THAT RELATES TO
FREEING UP CAPACITY IN THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD BE
AROUND HOW A CITY ATTORNEY
CHOOSES TO HANDLE REPORTS THAT
ARE COMING INTO THE OFFICE.
ON THE ONE HAND IF A CITY
ATTORNEY WERE TO DECLINE TO
CHARGE ANY OF THOSE CASES,
THERE WOULD NOT EVEN BE AN
OPTION OF MOVING THAT CASE
FORWARD OR IN CHOOSING TO
PROSECUTE ARTS TO DIVERT.
THEY WOULD JUST BE DECLINING
CHARGES ALTOGETHER AND THAT
WOULD DECREASE THE ABILITY,
EXCUSE ME, DECREASE THE NUMBER
OF CASES THAT A POTENTIAL
PROSECUTOR WOULD MOVE FORWARD
WITH FOR CHARGING, DISGRACING
ANY POTENTIAL FOR PROSECUTORS
ACROSS THE SYSTEM.
THE OTHER ITEM OF NOTE WOULD BE
IF A FUTURE CITY ATTORNEY
DECIDED TO DIVERT A HIGHER
NUMBER OF CASES.
OUTSTANDING ELIGIBILITY OR
INCREASING OVERALL THE CASES
THAT MOVED INTO A DIVERSION
PROGRAM THAT COULD ALSO
POTENTIALLY FREE UP A
PROSECUTOR THAT WOULD OTHERWISE
BE PURSUING THOSE CHARGES IN
COURT AND PROVIDE FOR THAT
PROSECUTOR MOVING INTO
PREFILING DIVERSION.
ALL THAT TO SAY I AM STILL
WORKING WITH THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT THAT KIND OF STAFFING
LOOKS LIKE AND WOULD HOPEFULLY
HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT
THAT AS THE ANALYSIS CONTINUES.
THOSE ARE THE PIECES RELATED TO
HOW TO FUND THE EXISTING
PROGRAM.
I WILL STOP RIGHT THERE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS BEFORE MOVING INTO
THE NEXT ISSUE WHICH IS ALSO
RELATED TO PREFILING DIVERSION
BUT ON THE EXPANSION PIECE.
>> THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AND THEN
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
>> THANK YOU.
JUST FOR EVERYBODY 'S
SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, AS A
SAID SOMETIMES, AND BECAUSE OUR
TIMELINES ARE SHORT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT OF THE
PREFILING DIVERSION ACTIONS THAT
COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ IS
COVERING HERE.
THERE'S MORE BUT BETWEEN THIS
ONE AND THE NEXT WHEN I DO NOT
HAVE A CITY COUNCIL BUDGET
ACTION RELATED TO FULLY
STAFFING THE EXISTING PREFILING
DIVERSION PROGRAM.
SO IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED IN
TAKING THAT ON, I JUST WANT TO
LET FOLKS KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT
SOMETHING, NOT BECAUSE I'M NOT
INTERESTED IN, I ABSOLUTELY AM.
BUT BECAUSE FOR THE EXPANSION
OF THE PREFILING DIVERSION
PROGRAM TO PEOPLE OVER 25,
THAT'S WORK I'VE BEEN ENGAGED
IN BECAUSE OF EFFORTS FROM
COUNCIL PRESIDENT GONZALES A
COUPLE YEARS AGO AND A REPORT
COMING TO MY COMMITTEE ON THE
RACIAL EQUITY TOOLKIT THAT WE
ASKED THEM TO DO.
I JUST BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE
ENGAGED AND HAVE ACTUALLY
REQUESTED THAT THE LAW
DEPARTMENT MAKE A PROPOSAL FOR
THE PREFILING DIVERSION PROGRAM
TO BE EXPANDED TO OVER 25-YEAR-
OLDS.
I DO HAVE A PROPOSAL AROUND
THAT BUT NOT ABOUT THIS ONE.
I WANT FOLKS TO KNOW IN CASE
YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THE
OPTION THAT ASHA IS PROPOSING.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT PREVIEW,
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> AND SIMILAR TO
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD'S
COMMENTS I DON'T REALLY AT
THIS POINT HAVE ANYTHING TO
WEIGH IN ON THE OPTIONS THAT
HAVE BEEN PUT UP HERE.
I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON A
MORE FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL THAT
THERE IS GOING TO BE A CHANGE
IN LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AFTER THIS
NEXT ELECTION AND I DO THINK A
LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS.
ASHA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
CONVERSATIONS I'VE BEEN LIKE
WITH THE CURRENT CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN TERMS OF
HOW TO PROTECT AT SOME OF THE
INFORMATION YOU ARE REQUESTING
BECAUSE A LOT OF IT WILL BE
CONTINGENT ON WHAT DIRECTION
THE NEW CITY ATTORNEY WANTS TO
TAKE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. THIS
JUST WANT TO FLAG YOUR INTEREST
THAT I HAVE BEEN USING OUR
POWERS UNDER THE CHARTER TO
CREATE LEGISLATION CREATING A
DUTY FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
MAINTAIN A DIVERSION PROGRAM AS
A FUNDAMENTAL PART, ITEM OF
BUSINESS THAT WE DO AND AT THIS
POINT IT SHOULDN'T BE, FRANKLY,
DISCRETIONARY FOR DIVERSION TO
BE PART OF THAT WORK.
WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE
OF YEARS, AND THEREFORE
DIRECTLY WITH THE DIVERSION
PROGRAM, THE INCREDIBLE RESULTS
OF THAT PROGRAM AS DEMONSTRATED
IN A VERY LOW RECIDIVISM RATE
FOR PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATE IN
THAT PROGRAM AS DEMONSTRATED BY
THE VERY STRONG COMMUNITY
PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN CHOOSE 180
AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT AND
REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING
AT THE CORE OF OUR LEGAL SYSTEM
TO BEING MORE RESTORATIVE
RATHER THAN BEING MORE
PUNITIVE.
AND I THINK IT'S TOO IMPORTANT
TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE A
CITY ATTORNEY COULD JUST, BY
THEIR DISCRETION, GET OUT OF
THAT LINE OF BUSINESS AND TO
STOP DOING PREFILED DIVERSION
AS PART OF THE PRACTICE.
SO, I DO THINK, WE HAVE THE
POWER UNDER THE CHARTER TO
CREATE AFFIRMATIVE DUTIES FOR
THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD EXERCISE
THAT POWER GIVEN THAT WE ARE
GOING TO BE, FOR THE FIRST TIME
IN 12 YEARS, TRANSITIONING.
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH THE
PRE-DIVERSION A CONCEPT,
TRANSITIONING LEADERSHIP IN THE
DEPARTMENT PICKED TO MAKE IT
CLEAR, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
THE CITY WILL CONTINUE TO DO
AND GIVE SOME PEACE OF MIND TO
COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS THAT
THAT PROGRAM IS NOT JUST GOING
TO BE ARBITRARILY WASHED AWAY
IN THE EVENT THERE IS A CITY
ATTORNEY THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE
IN PREFILED DIVERSION OR
DOESN'T THINK IT SHOULD BE PART
OF THEIR BUSINESS.
SO, I JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT
AS SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN
AND FLAG IT TO GIVE MAYBE SOME
RELIEF TO OUR COMMITTEE
PARTNERS WHO ARE POTENTIALLY
CONCERNED THAT THIS COULD ALL
JUST GO AWAY BASED ON THAT
CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
APPRECIATE THAT CONCEPT.
AND, ASHA DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING
ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO
THROUGH ON THE SLIDE?
>> NOT ON THE SLIDE.
MANY OF THE CONSIDERATIONS AND
MUCH OF WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED
WILL APPLY TO THE NEXT SLIDE
WHICH IS ABOUT EXPANDING
PREFILED DIVERSION.
>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO
THAT ONE.
WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE MORE MINUTES
AND IF WE CAN'T GET THROUGH IT,
THEN WE WILL DO A PAUSE AT
1:00.
>> THANK YOU.
SO AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS THE
2022 PROPOSED BUDGET DOES NOT
INCLUDE ANY FUNDS FOR EXPANDING
THE PREFILING DIVERSION
PROGRAM.
BUT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF
EXPANSION AS COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD MENTIONE, THERE IS A
RESPONSE AS WELL AS AN RET THAT
HAPPENED.
THEY WERE ABLE TO ESTIMATE THE
COST OF SUCH A PROGRAM WOULD BE
$1.4 MILLION.
$750,000 OR GO DIRECTLY TO
SUPPORTNG THE COMMUNITY
PARTNER AND $680,000 OR GO
TOWARD SUPPORTING STAFFING AND
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND SO, AS I MENTIONED, THERE
ARE OPTIONS AROUND POTENTIALLY
FIGURING OUT HOW THESE ALIGN
WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
CAME OUT OF THE TASK FORCE
REPORT AND THE RET OPTION A IS
TO DO ADOPT A SLI WITH THAT
WOULD REQUIRE TRENTOR TO SUBMIT
A REPORT ABOUT THE ALIGNMENT OF
PRINCIPLES AND HOW THEY WOULD
ALIGN THE PROGRAM.
OPTION B WOULD BE TO ADD FUNDS
TO EXPAND PREFILING DIVERSION
AND TO EITHER DO IT WITHOUT A
PROVISO, WITH THE PROVISO THAT
REQUIRES THE FUNDS BE SPENT ON
A PROGRAM THAT ALIGNS WITH THE
PRINCIPLES IN THE TASK FORCE
REPORT AND THE RET, OR WITH THE
PROVISO TO PROHIBIT EXPENDITURE
UNTIL A REPORT CAME IN THAT
DESCRIBES ALIGNMENT, OR C, THE
COUNCIL TO TAKE NO ACTION.
AND SIMILAR TO THE
CONSIDERATIONS I MENTIONED
ABOVE ABOUT THE EXISTING
PREFILING DIVERSION PROGRAM
WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING
SOURCE, YOU CAN EITHER ADD
OPTION A TO ADD GENERAL FUNDS
TO PROVIDE THE STAFFING AND
SUPPORT NEEDED TO EXPAND THE
PROGRAM.
OPTION B WOULD BE TO REALLOCATE
FUNDS ALREADY WITHIN THE SYSTEM
SO EITHER FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, OTHER PLACES IN THE
ATTORNEY OFFICES CRIMINAL
DIVISION ARE THE SEATTLE
MUNICIPAL PORT TO FUND THE
PROGRAM OR YOU COULD TAKE NO
ACTION WHICH WOULD MEAN NOT
EXPANDING, NOT PROVIDING FUNDS
FOR STAFFING TO EXPAND THE
PREFILING DIVERSION PROGRAM.
>> THANK YOU.
ANY INITIAL COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS ON ITEM 1B?
OKAY.
ASHA, TELL ME MORE ABOUT --
THIS MAY NOT BE A SIMPLE ANSWER
BUT , WHAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
SOME OF THE POLICY CHANGES
OUTLINED IN THE CENTRAL STAFF
MEMO INSTEAD OF EXPANDING THE
CITY ATTORNEY BUDGET?
HAVE WE DONE THAT SORT OF
ANALYSIS?
>> SO, I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS
THAT BY EXPANDING THE POLICY
PIECES AND ELIGIBILITY OF THE
PROGRAM, IT WILL MEAN MORE
CASES COMING IN SO THAT SORT OF
AUTOMATICALLY UPS THE AMOUNT OF
THE BODY OF WORK THAT THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD NEED TO
DO. AND GIVEN THE EXISTING
PROGRAM ISN'T FULLY STAFFED IN
A WAY TO DO BOTH THE WORK OF
DIVERSION GENERALLY, AS WELL AS
SOME OF THE REFORM WORK THAT
THEY CURRENTLY PROSECUTOR HAS
BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF
PARTICIPATING IN WORK AROUND
JAIL USE AND WORK AROUND THE
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM EFFORTS,
OTHERWISE IT MAY BE DIFFICULT
FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
TO HANDLE THE INFLUX IN CASE
VOLUME THAT COMES WITHOUT
ADDITIONAL STAFFING. THE
FUNDING THAT WOULD GO TO A
COMMUNITY PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO
DO THIS WORK IN THE SAME WAY, I
DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE
THE CAPACITY TO TAKE ON THE
ADDITIONAL VOLUME OF CASES THAT
WOULD COME WITH EXPANSION SO
EVEN IF WE WERE TO MAKE THE
POLICY CHANGES IN THE CITY'S
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WERE TO EXPAND
DIVERSION, I THINK IT WOULD BE
DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY
HANDLE THE PRACTICALITIES OF
THAT LEVEL OF CASE VOLUME.
>> COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD.
>> I WANT TO CLARIFY.
WHAT I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY,
ASHA , IS MORE CASES WILL BE
COMING IN BUT NOT THAT MORE
CASES WILL BE COMING INTO THE
L.A.W.
DEPARTMENT FOR PROSECUTION, BUT
THERE WILL BE MORE CASES
ELIGIBLE FOR DIVERSION.
THOSE DIVERSION CASES STAFFED
IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
MANAGE THOSE CASES THROUGH THE
DIVERSION PROGRAM AND SO I
THINK THAT'S WHY WHEN WE ARE
REFERRING TO THESE PRINCIPLES
FROM THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM
TASK FORCE THERE ARE A NUMBER
OF PRINCIPLES. PREFERENCE IS NOT
TO EXPAND THE FUNDING FOOTPRINT
FOR COMPONENTS OF THE CLS, THE
CITY ATTORNEY BEING ONE OF THEM
, BUT IN THOSE CASES WHEN YOU
MIGHT BE DOING SO, THE
PREFERENCE IS THAT YOU TAKE
MONEY FROM OTHER PLACES IN THE
CLS.
SO THAT'S WHY UNDER OPTION B
IT'S A RECOGNITION THAT YOU MAY
NEED TO ADD FUNDING TO THE CIO
BUT YOU SHOULD TAKE IT FROM
SOMEWHERE ELSE WITHIN THE CLS,
THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM.
AND THEN THERE IS A COMMUNITY
COMPONENT, COMMUNITY
STAKEHOLDER FUNDING COMPONENT
ALSO FOR SOME OF THE
PROGRAMMATIC'S THAT DOESN'T NOT
NEED TO BE HELD IN THE 30 --
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
>> THANK YOU TO THE CLEAR
VACATION.
AND WITH THAT I WOULD BE
LEANING TOWARDS OPTION 2.
OPTION B 2 TO MAKE SURE THERE IS
ALIGNMENT WITH ITS
RECOMMENDATIONS.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS TO CLOSE
US OUT ON THIS ITEM AND LESS
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AT
SOMETHING ELSE.
I SEE HER HAND GO DOWN.
COUNCILMEMBER LEWIS.
LET'S CLOSE US OUT ON THE SLIDE
IF YOU DON'T WIND.
>> I SIMILARLY CONCUR WITH
COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AND,
MADAM CHAIR, YOUR PREFERENCES
IN REGARD ON HOW TO PROCEED
WITH THIS.
I GUESS ONE THING THAT I WOULD
FLAG BASED ON MY PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE IS I DO FIRMLY
BELIEVE THAT OVER THE COURSE OF
A COUPLE OF BUDGET CYCLES IF
THERE IS A PREFILED DIVERSION
EXPANSION, THERE WILL BE AND
EFFICIENCY REALIZED IN THE
CRIMINAL DIVISION CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND IN TERMS
OF FREEING UP ADDITIONAL TIME
BY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF
EMPLOYEE HOURS REQUIRED TO
PROCESS A SIMILAR NUMBER OF
CASES. DIVERSION WORK IS
CONSIDERABLY LESS TIME-CONSUMING
THAN ADVERSARIAL CRIMINAL
LITIGATION.
AND AS THAT IS EXPANDED, I
THINK THERE WILL BE SOME
CORRESPONDING SAVINGS THAT
COULD BE CAPTURED AND
REINVESTED IN OTHER CITY
PRIORITIES.
I GUESS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO
IS FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT WE CAN
STRUCTURE A WAY TO MONITOR THE
INCREASED EFFICIENCIES AND THE
REDUCED DEMAND AND THEN HAVE
THAT BE PART OF WHAT WE DO OVER
A SERIES OF BUDGET CYCLES.
SIMILAR TO HOW WE ARE
INTERACTING WITH THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AS COUNCILMEMBER
HERBOLD INDICATED EARLIER, YOU
DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION,
WHICH HAS BEEN THE COUNCIL'S
POSITION, OF CUTTING BEFORE
THOSE CAPACITY EFFICIENCIES ARE
REALIZED, WHICH, OF COURSE,
THIS COUNCIL HASN'T ACTUALLY
DONE DESPITE MISCONCEPTIONS IN
THE COMMUNITY.
BUT TO REDUCE SOME OF THE
FUNCTIONS IN THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BEFORE THOSE
EFFICIENCIES ARE REALIZED COULD
BE PROBLEMATIC BUT I THINK THAT
BY MONITORING AND HAVING A
STATED BUDGETARY GOAL OVER TIME
EXPANDING DIVERSION AND THEN
REDUCING THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT
OF THE CRIMINAL DIVISION IS
SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AND WILL
BE REALIZED BY INCREASING AND
EXPANDING DIVERSION.
SO JUST SOME WAY TO STRUCTURE
AND TRAP THAT SO IN FUTURE
BUDGETS WE CAN CONTINUE THAT
WORK.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
COMMENT AND APPRECIATE AND AGREE
WITH THAT SENTIMENT THAT WE
NEED TO APPROPRIATELY SCALE AND
THANK YOU FOR THE
CLARIFICATION, COLLEAGUES, ON
THIS PIECE.
I WILL SUGGEST WE TAKE A PAUSE.
COME BACK. WE DO HAVE A FEW
MORE SLIDES TO GO, ABOUT FIVE
MORE SLIDES.
WE WILL COME BACK AND START
AGAIN ON SLIDE 15 UNLESS
THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS
ONE?
MADAM CLERK, I WOULD LIKE TO
GIVE FOLKS A FULL HOUR SO IF
THERE IS NO OBJECTION, IF THERE
IS NO OBJECTION I WOULD LIKE TO
AMEND THE AGENDA TO HAVE OUR
RECESS AND ADD 2:05 P.M.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO
AMENDING THE AGENDA?
TO HAVE A FULL HOUR RECESS AND
RETURN AT 2:05 P.M.
HEARING NO OBJECTION THE AGENDA
IS AMENDED.
WE WILL HAVE A FULL HOUR.
THANK YOU, ALL, FOR JOINING US
AGAIN TO CONTINUE THE
ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES AND THEN
LEADING INTO SPD.
WE WILL GET YOU OUT OF HERE
BEFORE 5:00 P.M.
TONIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND
QUESTIONS.
THE MEETING IS IN RECESS.
SEE YOU ALL AT 2:05 P.M.